Sony Cmt-cp33md power transformer blown

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  • notallbad
    Badcaps Legend
    • Oct 2012
    • 1190
    • UK

    #1

    Sony Cmt-cp33md power transformer blown

    Power transformer has open circuit on the 230v primary side, its tapped for 115v too which is also open so most likely the thermal fuse has blown. It doesnt look like it would be possible to open it up to check the thermal fuse so looking to replace.
    What are peoples thoughts on repair?
    replace the one transformer with 2
    replace like for like, though unlikely to find a direct replacement
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    Last edited by notallbad; 01-22-2023, 04:42 PM.
  • notallbad
    Badcaps Legend
    • Oct 2012
    • 1190
    • UK

    #2
    Re: Sony Cmt-cp33md power transformer blown

    Looking at this it would seem its possible to bypass the open circuit thermal fuse on the transformer by simply forming a bridge.

    Of course, the safety aspect will no longer exist but will at least allow me to power it up and operate the unit to test full functionality.
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    Last edited by notallbad; 01-22-2023, 05:40 PM.

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    • R_J
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      • Jun 2012
      • 9535
      • Canada

      #3
      Re: Sony Cmt-cp33md power transformer blown

      Yes you can bypass it, The power supply has an external fuse so if the primary IS shorted, that fuse would blow. In most cases the thermal fuse seems to be a bit under rated and after time just goes open.

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      • notallbad
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        • Oct 2012
        • 1190
        • UK

        #4
        Re: Sony Cmt-cp33md power transformer blown

        Ok so bypassed the thermal fuse but after a few seconds of the unit powered up and running the transformer does begin to overheat and smoke.
        So guessing the transformer is definately shot?
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        Last edited by notallbad; 01-23-2023, 04:26 AM.

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        • R_J
          Badcaps Legend
          • Jun 2012
          • 9535
          • Canada

          #5
          Re: Sony Cmt-cp33md power transformer blown

          It only takes one shorted turn and the transformer will do that.

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          • notallbad
            Badcaps Legend
            • Oct 2012
            • 1190
            • UK

            #6
            Re: Sony Cmt-cp33md power transformer blown

            Managed to find a similar model unit with the same transformer inside.
            Swapped it over and its all working again now.

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            • UNITRAX
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2023
              • 64
              • POLAND

              #7
              Re: Sony Cmt-cp33md power transformer blown

              In which model did you find the matching transformer?
              I had an adventure with the Sony TA-F210. Suddenly it stopped playing and started to throw sparks. It turned out that the transformer unsoldered itself from the pcb. I mean the primary winding pins were on fire. It's strange that the transformer survived and the amplifier probably still works.

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              • notallbad
                Badcaps Legend
                • Oct 2012
                • 1190
                • UK

                #8
                Re: Sony Cmt-cp33md power transformer blown

                The original xfrm is a 1-435-386-11.
                Found identical xfrm in a CMT-CP11 even though the service manual gives reference to a different part number (1-435-657-11),though I guess not knowing the history its possible its been replaced in the past.

                The difference between the psu pcb is that the CMT-CP11 does not have the extra ribbon pin/cct Ac det, I believe. Hence why the xfrm was soldered out and not pcb swap.

                The replacement xfrm primary read 630 ohm between pin 6 and/or C(ommon) and pin 2. And between pins 1 and 2 is 140 ohm, just for info.

                The original was def shorted, read around 13 ohms between pins 2 and 6.
                Last edited by notallbad; 01-27-2023, 05:04 AM.

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