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  • redwire
    Badcaps Legend
    • Dec 2010
    • 3900
    • Canada

    #1

    Car USB power module 5V 8A

    How do I mount this stupid thing? It has a 2mm hole and a couple 1mm holes close to traces. M2 fits but no way I can drill that precise in a car.

    Upgrading my car USB power and can't stuff it in a box or bolt it down.
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  • stj
    Great Sage 齊天大聖
    • Dec 2009
    • 30944
    • Albion

    #2
    Re: Car USB power module 5V 8A

    pcb feet.
    like this:
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-20-50p...t/273830109355

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    • sam_sam_sam
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      • Jul 2011
      • 6025
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Car USB power module 5V 8A

      Originally posted by stj
      Thanks for sharing this

      I have been looking for something like this for awhile

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      • sam_sam_sam
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        • Jul 2011
        • 6025
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Car USB power module 5V 8A

        Originally posted by redwire
        Upgrading my car USB power
        I thought about buying some of these but it does not look to me that it would put out 8 amps @ 5 volts

        Let us know if it really does 8 amps

        Thanks
        Last edited by sam_sam_sam; 06-19-2019, 04:07 PM.

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        • redwire
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          • Dec 2010
          • 3900
          • Canada

          #5
          Re: Car USB power module 5V 8A

          At 8A output it heats up, dissipates around 3.5W the inductor gets hot.
          They say use use a cooling fan if you want 8A all the time. It's really good for ~5A with no problem and efficiency stays over 92% at load. It uses TPS40057 and 40A MOSFETS but at lower 100kHz. It's like a bigger KIM-055L module.
          There is a newer version V2 with a MSOP-10 IC I have not tried.
          Mine outputs 5.3V which is too much I think, so I removed a 47k resistor to get 5.1V

          Qisheng Electronics QSKJ
          QS-1205CBUM-8A V1.03
          8-35VDC to 5V 8A

          There is also a 5V 5A version (no USB jacks) that is very good for powering micros and $3, made by some other chinese company. Uses TPS40057 and flat pack mosfets.

          For mounting, tiny M2 spacers fits the small holes and a M3 in the bigger hole. I'll either mount it first to a small metal plate or try pcb feet.
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          Last edited by redwire; 06-19-2019, 04:37 PM.

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          • sam_sam_sam
            Badcaps Legend
            • Jul 2011
            • 6025
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Car USB power module 5V 8A

            Originally posted by redwire
            They say use use a cooling fan if you want 8A all the time.
            There just asking for trouble doing that

            I sure would not do it
            Last edited by sam_sam_sam; 06-19-2019, 04:57 PM.

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            • budm
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              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Car USB power module 5V 8A

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              Last edited by budm; 06-19-2019, 06:09 PM.
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              • redwire
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                • Dec 2010
                • 3900
                • Canada

                #8
                Re: Car USB power module 5V 8A

                I've tested it at 8A. My rule of thumb - rated chinese watts/amps, best to cut in half...

                The power components - the two AOD4184 MOSFETS are rated 40A, and the inductor Sumida CDEP-147NP-9R5MS rated 9.6A and the reverse polarity MOSFET Si4800 9A (12V input side). I drew the schematic.

                So all the parts are good enough but heat goes up under full load. The hottest part is the inductor gets hot, to ~60C at 8A so a hot sunny day would get to 75C which is too much for me.

                If I charge three USB devices to say 6.3A it gets warm but not going to croak.
                Because of cold winters I swap in polymer caps instead of the 220uF electrolytics.

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                • sam_sam_sam
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                  • Jul 2011
                  • 6025
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Car USB power module 5V 8A

                  Originally posted by redwire
                  I've tested it at 8A. My rule of thumb - rated chinese watts/amps, best to cut in half...

                  The power components - the two AOD4184 MOSFETS are rated 40A, and the inductor Sumida CDEP-147NP-9R5MS rated 9.6A and the reverse polarity MOSFET Si4800 9A (12V input side). I drew the schematic.

                  So all the parts are good enough but heat goes up under full load. The hottest part is the inductor gets hot, to ~60C at 8A so a hot sunny day would get to 75C which is too much for me.

                  If I charge three USB devices to say 6.3A it gets warm but not going to croak.
                  Because of cold winters I swap in polymer caps instead of the 220uF electrolytics.
                  So would you say it worth buying some on scale one ( not worth the money ) ten ( being the best thing on the planet ) what rating would you give it

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                  • stj
                    Great Sage 齊天大聖
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 30944
                    • Albion

                    #10
                    Re: Car USB power module 5V 8A

                    what do you want them for?
                    because you can get boards now that support QC3.0 (quickcharge variable voltage)

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