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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #1

    Right to repair

    From iFIXIT
    California just introduced Right to Repair legislation.
    California just became the latest state to announce a Right to Repair bill—making it the eighteenth state considering this legislation this year. If passed, Right to Repair legislation would require manufacturers to publish repair information and make replacement parts and diagnostic tools available to consumers.
    Assemblymember Susan Talamantes Eggman has just announced that she will be introducing the California Right to Repair Act. She states, “The Right to Repair Act will provide consumers with the freedom to have their electronic products and appliances fixed by a repair shop or service provider of their choice, a practice that was taken for granted a generation ago but is now becoming increasingly rare in a world of planned obsolescence.”
    Proponents hold that these laws will encourage consumers to repair—instead of trash and replace—their products. By loosening manufacturer-imposed restrictions on parts availability and providing service information, more repairs will become more accessible. And it goes further than that—Right to Repair legislation would also help to return competition to the marketplace, giving consumers more options about where and how to repair their products. This not only creates jobs, but it also reduces the environmental impact of e-waste.
    This year's Right to Repair fight has gained considerable momentum—surpassing the twelve states who fought last year. California joins seventeen other states so far, including: Washington, Massachusetts, Vermont, New York, Hawaii, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri, North Carolina, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Oklahoma, Tennessee, and Virginia.
    For additional information about Right to Repair legislation in California, please visit Repair.org. Organizations like Repair.org are fighting for your right to repair—they make it easy to contact your California representatives. You can also do it the old-fashioned way and call them up. Let them know you care about repair and won't be chained to monopolies. Every voice counts.
    If you have any questions or would like to schedule an interview, please contact Kay-Kay at kaykay@ifixit.com.
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  • eccerr0r
    Solder Sloth
    • Nov 2012
    • 8701
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Right to repair

    I thought Wyoming had something like this occur, or did it get thrown out?

    Plus did it encompass vehicles that use said electronics?

    goontron?

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    • mockingbird
      Badcaps Legend
      • Dec 2008
      • 5484
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      #3
      Re: Right to repair

      It's a double standard...

      Will they then force food manufacturers to disclose _all_ the ingredients in their products? They are allowed a certain degree of discretion.

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      • Curious.George
        Badcaps Legend
        • Nov 2011
        • 2305
        • Unknown

        #4
        Re: Right to repair

        Originally posted by budm
        From iFIXITIf passed, Right to Repair legislation would require manufacturers to publish repair information and make replacement parts and diagnostic tools available to consumers.
        Nowadays, this means very little more than it currently does. You'll still end up "swapping boards" or buying overpriced components from a SOLE SOURCE supplier -- the device's manufacturer! How can you legislate pricing for components that are ONLY available from the device manufacturer?

        In the hey-day of (arcade) video gaming, it was not uncommon for "custom chips" to be designed (to prevent counterfeiting of games that were otherwise "wide open" to reverse engineering). Some owner/operators would do their own board level repairs (it was all TTL and COTS microprocessors, memory, etc.).

        Introduce a "custom chip" and refuse to make it available for sale? They'd cringe: "What happens if the custom chip on MY board dies?? How can I buy a replacement?"

        OTOH, make it available for a reasonable price and counterfeiters will just buy them to install in the spot on THEIR circuit boards marked "custom chip goes HERE".

        So, as a compromise, you price the custom chip at the same price as the entire game (!). Then offer the purchaser a credit for the return of his (allegedly) defective chip that you're replacing. And, if you see a customer buying too many of these, just arrange for his shipments to be delayed -- for a LONG time!

        Nowadays, any MCU, FPGA and many other "house parts" would fall into that category.

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        • budm
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 40746
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Right to repair

          I am hoping that 'providing service information' means service manual, schematics, etc. at the very least.
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          • goontron
            5000!
            • Dec 2011
            • 4108
            • US

            #6
            Re: Right to repair

            Originally posted by eccerr0r
            I thought Wyoming had something like this occur, or did it get thrown out?

            Plus did it encompass vehicles that use said electronics?

            goontron?
            Didn't even make it to the floor to be discussed we had such a short session.... Its mainly for farm equipment, but had some blanket provisions that made it cover basically anything that could be involved in farming, so its exploitable to smack the likes of Tesla's new semi tractor-trailers as well.
            Things I've fixed: anything from semis to crappy Chinese $2 radios, and now an IoT Dildo....

            "Dude, this is Wyoming, i hopped on and sent 'er. No fucking around." -- Me

            Excuse me while i do something dangerous


            You must have a sad, sad boring life if you hate on people harmlessly enjoying life with an animal costume.

            Sometimes you need to break shit to fix it.... Thats why my lawnmower doesn't have a deadman switch or engine brake anymore

            Follow the white rabbit.

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            • Curious.George
              Badcaps Legend
              • Nov 2011
              • 2305
              • Unknown

              #7
              Re: Right to repair

              Originally posted by budm
              I am hoping that 'providing service information' means service manual, schematics, etc. at the very least.
              I doubt they would be required to provide more than they provide to their service depots.

              So, if their service depots just do board swap, you might end up with a "schematic" that is little more than a block diagram: board A connects to board B via cable 4 and board C via cable 3.

              And, even if their current practices are to provide more detailed information to their depots, they could probably just change this practice and lock everyone out (other than "factory personnel") by just redefining what they consider to be "serviceable".

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