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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #61
    Re: Hifi amp has stopped.

    You can install the new transistors, also look at the pot setting of the one you removed, it should be set close to the original value if set wrong then you will then have too much idling current.
    You should use the lamp or VARIAC otherwise you can have nice smoke if we did not catch all the bad parts.
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    • Portishead
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2016
      • 123
      • Uk

      #62
      Re: Hifi amp has stopped.

      Is it a bit iffy to try it with a new 2a fuse without the lamp?
      And how to check the existing trimmer?
      The case is melted a little. What's inside it? Can you see from the picture on the board?? Should I change it or ok for now?

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      • Portishead
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2016
        • 123
        • Uk

        #63
        Re: Hifi amp has stopped.

        Do you think I should change the little trimmer?

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        • vinceroger69
          Badcaps Legend
          • Mar 2012
          • 6714
          • uk

          #64
          Re: Hifi amp has stopped.

          I think it a variable potentiometer maybe test the old one on ohms setting see what it reads you maybe able to set the new one then roughly before you solder it in etc .

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          • Portishead
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2016
            • 123
            • Uk

            #65
            Re: Hifi amp has stopped.

            Can you tell me how to check it? It has 3 legs..

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            • Portishead
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2016
              • 123
              • Uk

              #66
              Re: Hifi amp has stopped.

              Hi bud.
              Decided to give it a shot and plug it in. The amp came on and worked perfectly for around two minutes then the internal fuse went again.

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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
                • USA

                #67
                Re: Hifi amp has stopped.

                Check all four of the output transistors. How did you set the Bias pot or you did not replace it?
                You need to have the lamp setup otherwise you may keep blowing parts.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • Portishead
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2016
                  • 123
                  • Uk

                  #68
                  Re: Hifi amp has stopped.

                  The two new output transistors have died assuming I can just test them in situ now.

                  Completely different readings to the other side.
                  No,I have not replaced the pot.
                  Need to also know how to test that then.
                  Last edited by Portishead; 04-13-2016, 09:36 AM.

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                  • Portishead
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2016
                    • 123
                    • Uk

                    #69
                    Re: Hifi amp has stopped.

                    Can I assume both l & r pots are supposed to have the same readings?
                    I take it they are left and right..

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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #70
                      Re: Hifi amp has stopped.

                      The melted one looks to be set at 12'o clock position for that bad channel.
                      Is the other pot set to the same position?
                      There are 3 legs on the pot and I believe two of the legs are electrically tied together so you can do the comparison reading between the two pots.
                      BTW, the pictures of the two transistor you asked on how two test them, but you did not ask about the the two little one. The picture that I marked has 4 transistors total.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • Portishead
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2016
                        • 123
                        • Uk

                        #71
                        Re: Hifi amp has stopped.

                        Yes the pots do appear to be set at 12 o'clock

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                        • vinceroger69
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 6714
                          • uk

                          #72
                          Re: Hifi amp has stopped.

                          as per budms request and post 46 budm asked if you could test all 4 of the transistors can you retest these (all four) and post the readings as maybe also one of these are bad too.

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                          • Portishead
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2016
                            • 123
                            • Uk

                            #73
                            Re: Hifi amp has stopped.

                            Ok testing the pots. Meter on 200

                            Melted one - probes on back two pins reads 117.0
                            Probes on left rear and front 117.0
                            Probes on right rear and front 00.2

                            Other good channel -
                            Probes on back two pins 105.8
                            Probes on left rear and front 105.8
                            Probes on right rear and front 00.2

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                            • Portishead
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2016
                              • 123
                              • Uk

                              #74
                              Re: Hifi amp has stopped.

                              Originally posted by vinceroger69
                              as per budms request and post 46 budm asked if you could test all 4 of the transistors can you retest these (all four) and post the readings as maybe also one of these are bad too.
                              Will do now

                              Ahhh.....stress

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                              • Portishead
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2016
                                • 123
                                • Uk

                                #75
                                Re: Hifi amp has stopped.

                                Originally posted by vinceroger69
                                as per budms request and post 46 budm asked if you could test all 4 of the transistors can you retest these (all four) and post the readings as maybe also one of these are bad too.
                                side with melted pot.
                                140 reads
                                1+2 = 00.4
                                1+3 =1
                                2+3 = 1

                                139 reads
                                1+2 =01.6
                                1+3 =1
                                2+3 = 1

                                Other channel

                                140 reads
                                1+2 =1
                                1+3 =1
                                2+3 =1

                                139 reads
                                1+2 =1
                                1+3=1
                                2+3=1
                                Last edited by Portishead; 04-13-2016, 03:05 PM.

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                                • elrefaey_mahmoud
                                  Member
                                  • Mar 2013
                                  • 14
                                  • egypt

                                  #76
                                  Re: Hifi amp has stopped.

                                  you should test all small driver transistors as well and all the diodes for each channel R & L

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                                  • Portishead
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Mar 2016
                                    • 123
                                    • Uk

                                    #77
                                    Re: Hifi amp has stopped.

                                    This is the four i've tested.

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                                    • budm
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Feb 2010
                                      • 40746
                                      • USA

                                      #78
                                      Re: Hifi amp has stopped.

                                      Originally posted by Portishead
                                      This is the four i've tested.
                                      There are 8 total in the picture, the little 4 Transistors have purple paint and orange paint on tops, you already tested the large one next to them.
                                      For example little Transistor T20 right next to T6.
                                      Last edited by budm; 04-13-2016, 04:44 PM.
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                      • keeney123
                                        Lauren
                                        • Sep 2014
                                        • 2536
                                        • United States

                                        #79
                                        Re: Hifi amp has stopped.

                                        Do you have any speakers connected to this Amp?

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                                        • Portishead
                                          Senior Member
                                          • Mar 2016
                                          • 123
                                          • Uk

                                          #80
                                          Re: Hifi amp has stopped.

                                          Originally posted by budm
                                          There are 8 total in the picture, the little 4 Transistors have purple paint and orange paint on tops, you already tested the large one next to them.
                                          For example little Transistor T20 right next to T6.

                                          Ok getting a little confused . I thought I was checking the 4 square shaped transistors. when you highlighted in post 46 I assumed square ones in the boxes as the huge transistors are also square.

                                          Have I got to test the little black half round ones with purple and orange tops?
                                          Last edited by Portishead; 04-14-2016, 12:36 AM.

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