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    cannon printer powersupply problem.

    My cannon printer PIXMA MG5320 was off one day because a surge in the house flipped. it wouldn't turn on at all no sign of power..

    Pretty much i thought it was a goner and not fixable so i just sat it somewhere till i get time to fully take it apart.

    Today i figured i see whats up with it, than i notice the power supply clips right out instead of being inside the printer somewhere. Pretty nice feature right there.

    I took the psu plastic case apart and from looking at it i see no problems.

    So i get my mutimeter to start checking the fuses which i see none at all. but after googleing some stuff of each thing on the board... yea im kinda newb with this stuff but i do get by cause i fixed 2 tvs already

    But i found out it has 3 of these https://www.google.com/search?q=re22...2.5%20a%20250v which are fuses. So i checked each one with the beep function and they all get a beep and i check the Resistance and they all go to 0 asoon as i put the probes on them. But they do go to 0.2 than 0.1 than back to 0 than they will do the same. i herd it needs to be always 0. But than again im not using a high end meter.

    So i checked a few other things i circle the 2 things i checked and i get no beep nor any resistance at all from the 2 which i think might be bad?

    They look like a resister but also looks like a ceramic cap too. like i said im new lol

    Pretty much it would be great to get the printer working again cause it was a good printer. Now they do have psus on ebay but they want like 30+ for them and if i can fix this psu myself that would be great.

    Should i be getting some reading on those blue resister cap thingys? cause like i said i get nothing. I even tested the other blue one in the middle of them and that gives a beep and a Resistance of 0.2-0.4.

    They also don't have a reading mark on them..

    heres better pics i found on the net my pics was blurry but looks the same as these pics.



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    I just tested it plugged in the printer and ac powered threw it. and tested these points. yellow is 124.125v coming threw. red is at the connector were the printer plugs into it. here's the weird thing.. i get 4v to 6v at the connector but if i hold one probe black ground in my hand and the red on one of the connectors i get 14 to 15v, than if i touch the metal surge breaker while doing the same it gets too the rated printer voltage 33v. whats going on? it seems to be getting power threw the board so yea im confused.



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    Last edited by gordesky1; 09-11-2015, 01:32 AM.

    #2
    Re: cannon printer powersupply problem.

    blue disks are ceramic capacitors, you shouldnt get a reading from them.

    check the big pink resstor near the small capacitors.
    the value is written on it.

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      #3
      Re: cannon printer powersupply problem.

      Originally posted by stj View Post
      blue disks are ceramic capacitors, you shouldnt get a reading from them.

      check the big pink resstor near the small capacitors.
      the value is written on it.

      just checked the pink resistor it gets 00.0-up to 00.8 its not steady at all and goes up and down. But it does get a beep.


      i also took a few more pics of these chips. cause at first they look like they had burn marks on them but cant really be sure..

      had to use my droid phone somehow the camera on that focus better than my more expensive camera... still hard to tell..









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      Last edited by gordesky1; 09-11-2015, 03:04 AM.

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        #4
        Re: cannon printer powersupply problem.

        You can remove (at least temporarily) the blue capacitors if you think they're shorted or causing problems. They're there to reduce EMI (electrical noise, radiations etc) so the power supply should still work without them.

        As for why the voltage varies that much, my first thought was your probe tips are oxidized or dirty therefore you have a bad contact (so try to clean the probe tips first) and my second thought was that the simply pressure on the board may cause a component to move and make a better contact... so I would look for weak solder joints and from the last picture you have some candidates on the bottom right (see the two big solder holes to the right of that resistor you circled with magenta/pink and everything around Q6, the component under R17)

        Put some flux on the pcb and add some leaded solder to whatever looks weird.

        You can also solder a couple of small wires where the output voltage usually is and then connect the probes to those wires for a better contact and free hands.
        If it's not the right voltage, you can try using hair dryer to warm some parts of the pcb while it's running ... the heat can warm up components on the pcb and "stretch" component leads which in turn may make better contact with solder (in case it's weak solder joints).

        I would say tap the board with your fingers but it's dangerous, definitely don't do it on the primary side (where you measured high voltage).

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          #5
          Re: cannon printer powersupply problem.

          there is a cracked solder joint in hose foto's - check all the soldering.

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            #6
            Re: cannon printer powersupply problem.

            I forgot to add and make it clear the 1st and 3 pic in my first post is not mine so i didn't make that circle. why he circle that is because the resister was blown. and those 2 holes are empty nothing is there which i find weird cause it has solder around the holes..

            will try a hair dryer on it and see what that does. and clean the probes but they don't have oxidation on it or dirty from what i can see.

            will also check over the board solder what doesn't look right.

            Whats the chance its something in the printer that's the problem like the main board? Tho this all happen after the surge breaker in the basement tripped. and after that i went to check the printer and it was off no power at all. So i would think it would of did something to the psu first than anything? but its hard to say..


            usely when i open stuff up that has problems i see the problem right on the boards mostly the psus. But in this case i cant see anything wrong.

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              #7
              Re: cannon printer powersupply problem.

              Originally posted by stj View Post
              there is a cracked solder joint in hose foto's - check all the soldering.

              Would a power surge cause that? cause the printer was working before it happened.

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                #8
                Re: cannon printer powersupply problem.

                The fuse is the black rectangular part near the main socket. Ok, I see you have found it and checked it. Carefully check the voltage across the 2 large capacitors at the output.
                Last edited by rievax_60; 09-11-2015, 03:38 AM.

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                  #9
                  Re: cannon printer powersupply problem.

                  with power going threw it or with none?

                  K that was a stupid question i asked which you can tell im a newb at this lol Will check it with power going threw it because with out power it wont get any volts threw it.. lol
                  Last edited by gordesky1; 09-11-2015, 04:00 AM.

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                    #10
                    Re: cannon printer powersupply problem.

                    Ok i cleaned the probes, than i tested those 2 caps on the end i even tested the big one.

                    The end caps i cant get nothing it will first spike to 0.500-0.700 than it will go down to 0 and stay there. Than i tested the big 450v one i ony get 1.100v at that..

                    I tested the mains by the plug and were i circled it on my first post 3rd pic and those asoon as i touch it read instant 125v -126v.


                    Tho i wonder if those will ony see the voltage ony when the printer is on? Or should those read max voltage threw them always?
                    Last edited by gordesky1; 09-11-2015, 04:44 AM.

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                      #11
                      Re: cannon printer powersupply problem.

                      Make sure it is unplugged. Check for continuity from each of the mains socket pins and the input pins on the bridge rectifier, RC1.
                      Each pin on the mains socket should connect to a particular pin on RC1.
                      Why do I get the impression that you might not be taking voltage readings properly?
                      what is your mains voltage there?
                      Last edited by rievax_60; 09-11-2015, 05:05 AM. Reason: extra

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                        #12
                        Re: cannon printer powersupply problem.

                        ah.
                        so it was plugged in continuously,
                        the house tripped out,
                        then it wont restart.

                        how old is it? i'm thinking the small startup caps.

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                          #13
                          Re: cannon printer powersupply problem.

                          Were im testing the voltage is in the last pic in my first post were i circled.

                          And yea im not sure if im doing it right either lol But i am getting my mains voltage at those points.

                          voltage here is 110-120v but will max out at 126v.

                          And the caps im checking them right under the board on their pins. and i have my mutimeter which is a innova 3320 set at acv to check the volts.

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                            #14
                            Re: cannon printer powersupply problem.

                            Originally posted by stj View Post
                            ah.
                            so it was plugged in continuously,
                            the house tripped out,
                            then it wont restart.

                            how old is it? i'm thinking the small startup caps.

                            Yep it was always on mostly and the house tripped and the printer never turn back on.

                            Its about 3 years old. well going on it.

                            Is the start up caps the ones closest by the mains plug?
                            Last edited by gordesky1; 09-11-2015, 05:32 AM.

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                              #15
                              Re: cannon printer powersupply problem.

                              yes, the 2 small electrolytics on the mains side.

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                                #16
                                Re: cannon printer powersupply problem.

                                ok i tested the volts from those 2 small ones when plugged in and i get 0.35v than the other one shows 0.06v both are 100v 1Hf caps.. than i tested the Ohms when off 1.018 for one and the other is 1.024.

                                Does 1hf sound right? i usely see mf and uf.

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                                  #17
                                  Re: cannon printer powersupply problem.

                                  I just looked at this video to see how you test bridge rectifier

                                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11JPy4t36oo


                                  and they came back as 595-620ohms. so i guess nothing is wrong with that?

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                                    #18
                                    Re: cannon printer powersupply problem.

                                    foto of those caps please.
                                    btw, you cant test them wih a multimeter.

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                                      #19
                                      Re: cannon printer powersupply problem.

                                      Originally posted by stj View Post
                                      foto of those caps please.
                                      btw, you cant test them wih a multimeter.
                                      best i can get to it close.. nothing wants to focus today lol


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                                      Hmm i thought mutimeters can test them? So they cant test the volts?

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                                        #20
                                        Re: cannon printer powersupply problem.

                                        the volts arent from the caps, they are going into the caps.

                                        btw, those are 1uf 100v
                                        the H is actually a u with a low tail - it means "micro"
                                        i'm not sure they are startup caps if they are only 1uf though.

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