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  • Rick88
    New Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 3

    #1

    ELNA Cap Identification

    Can anyone tell me what kind (series/catagory) does the following ELNA cap belongs to:
    Colour: Black with Gold letters
    Labeling:
    FOR
    AUDIO
    ELNA
    42V
    3300uF(M)
    JAPAN
    CEW(90*C)
    I would like to understand its specifications but cannot find it in ELNA's 07 catalog.
    Thanks.
  • PCBONEZ
    Grumpy Old Fart
    • Aug 2005
    • 10661
    • USA

    #2
    Re: ELNA Cap Identification

    https://cdn.badcaps-static.com/pdfs/...0dcda63c7a.pdf
    -
    It's over 12Mb.
    Mann-Made Global Warming.
    - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

    -
    Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

    - Dr Seuss
    -
    You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
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    • Brian C
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2006
      • 156

      #3
      Re: ELNA Cap Identification

      Originally posted by Rick88
      Can anyone tell me what kind (series/catagory) does the following ELNA cap belongs to:
      Colour: Black with Gold letters
      Labeling:
      FOR
      AUDIO
      ELNA
      42V
      3300uF(M)
      JAPAN
      CEW(90*C)
      I would like to understand its specifications but cannot find it in ELNA's 07 catalog.
      Thanks.
      This is the sound quality e-cap elna made for customer like Kenwood. It is TONEREX series if i remember correctly. Quite good sound... I've built some amplifier module using these e-cap as smoothing capacitor in the rectifier.



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      • Rick88
        New Member
        • Dec 2007
        • 3

        #4
        Re: ELNA Cap Identification

        Thanks Brian. Looks the same as the one I saw the other day except for the top part. Still puzzled why ELNA does not print the part number on the cap. I cannot find it in ELNA's catalog. Are you aware of any clone ones on the market?

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        • Brian C
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2006
          • 156

          #5
          Re: ELNA Cap Identification

          The top part used to be same as urs. I trimmed the top part of the plastic sleeve as it may improve the sound quality (advice from a friend of mine). ELNA do not print part no. on the cap because it is customized part requested by customer.
          Not sure about clone one. Few things on genuine Elna e-cap.

          (1) Elna E cap safety vent " -)-"


          (2) Date Code: 0349 means year 2003, week 49
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          • redassa
            New Member
            • Dec 2007
            • 3

            #6
            Re: ELNA Cap Identification

            May U Tell Me About The Different Types Of Capacitors Termination Styles On Board & If It's Shape Is Related To It's Case Size.
            For Technical , I Wanna Ask If There's A Relationship Between The ESR & Ripple Current From 1 Side And Between ESR & Leakage Current From The Other Side.
            Many Thanks To All Of You.

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            • redassa
              New Member
              • Dec 2007
              • 3

              #7
              Re: ELNA Cap Identification

              May U Tell Me About The Different Types Of Capacitors Termination Styles On Board & If It's Shape Is Related To It's Case Size.
              For Technical , I Wanna Ask If There's A Relationship Between The ESR & Ripple Current From 1 Side And Between ESR & Leakage Current From The Other Side.
              Many Thanks To All Of You.

              .

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              • PCBONEZ
                Grumpy Old Fart
                • Aug 2005
                • 10661
                • USA

                #8
                Re: ELNA Cap Identification

                I don't understand the question:

                "Termination style" - ???? - Meaning what?
                and
                Sides of what?
                Mann-Made Global Warming.
                - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

                -
                Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

                - Dr Seuss
                -
                You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                -

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                • kc8adu
                  Super Moderator
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 8832
                  • U.S.A!

                  #9
                  Re: ELNA Cap Identification

                  ROFLOL!!!!!
                  I trimmed the top part of the plastic sleeve as it may improve the sound quality (advice from a friend of mine)

                  Originally posted by Brian C
                  The top part used to be same as urs. I trimmed the top part of the plastic sleeve as it may improve the sound quality (advice from a friend of mine). ELNA do not print part no. on the cap because it is customized part requested by customer.
                  Not sure about clone one. Few things on genuine Elna e-cap.

                  (1) Elna E cap safety vent " -)-"


                  (2) Date Code: 0349 means year 2003, week 49

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                  • Brian C
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 156

                    #10
                    Re: ELNA Cap Identification

                    Originally posted by kc8adu
                    ROFLOL!!!!!
                    I trimmed the top part of the plastic sleeve as it may improve the sound quality (advice from a friend of mine)
                    To be frank, i found no improvement after the modification.

                    May U Tell Me About The Different Types Of Capacitors Termination Styles On Board & If It's Shape Is Related To It's Case Size.
                    For Technical , I Wanna Ask If There's A Relationship Between The ESR & Ripple Current From 1 Side And Between ESR & Leakage Current From The Other Side.
                    Many Thanks To All Of You.
                    Capacitor termination style depends on part mounting process, capacitor size and application. Machine insertion part must be in straight lead or formed lead with taping. Kinked lead is for manual insertion. The snap-in type is usually for heavy capacitor (big size). It holds the capacitor tightly on the PCB (application in vibration environment).

                    Low ESR capacitor can handle higher ripple current due to less heat dissipation ( losses ).

                    I am not sure... i think there is no relation between ESR and leakage current. Low leakage current cap is usually used in timer circuit.

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                    • kc8adu
                      Super Moderator
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 8832
                      • U.S.A!

                      #11
                      Re: ELNA Cap Identification

                      i guess i cant resist laughing at audiophool nonsense!

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                      • PCBONEZ
                        Grumpy Old Fart
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 10661
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: ELNA Cap Identification

                        Yo!
                        Every hobby has it's nonsense.

                        But what would the world be without color?

                        I used to visit a site that was all into mods to and overclocking IBM XT's.
                        You know, like a 4.77 MHz CPU. (Yes, that's Hz with an "M".)
                        This was in 1999/2000-ish too. 486's were already 'old'.

                        Overclockers in general crack me up.
                        Sure you can see the improvement on some data report/readout but like that tiny bit of improvement is even perceivable by human senses.

                        But then again when I was into cars I'd do silly sh*t like polish the internals of carburetors.

                        To each his own, you know.

                        .
                        Mann-Made Global Warming.
                        - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

                        -
                        Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

                        - Dr Seuss
                        -
                        You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                        -

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                        • Rick88
                          New Member
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 3

                          #13
                          Re: ELNA Cap Identification

                          Thanks Brian. You helped me cleared all the questions on this particular cap.

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                          • Cap_search
                            Member
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 29
                            • Earth

                            #14
                            Re: ELNA Cap Identification

                            I have the same caps, but no signs of date.

                            Only a code: 7528U
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                            • mockingbird
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 5484
                              • -

                              #15
                              Re: ELNA Cap Identification

                              28th week of 1975 - in other words, fakes.

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                              • Cap_search
                                Member
                                • Jan 2013
                                • 29
                                • Earth

                                #16
                                Re: ELNA Cap Identification

                                Originally posted by mockingbird
                                28th week of 1975 - in other words, fakes.
                                Oh!?

                                But I took them from inside a mini Kenwood system similar to that below...

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                                • mockingbird
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Dec 2008
                                  • 5484
                                  • -

                                  #17
                                  Re: ELNA Cap Identification

                                  Oh, in that case, those letters don't represent the datecode... I got confused because Capxon does put date codes on big snap in caps like that on the top...

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                                  • Cap_search
                                    Member
                                    • Jan 2013
                                    • 29
                                    • Earth

                                    #18
                                    Re: ELNA Cap Identification

                                    Originally posted by mockingbird
                                    Oh, in that case, those letters don't represent the datecode... I got confused because Capxon does put date codes on big snap in caps like that on the top...
                                    I just cut right now the top black cover to inspect and it looks like this!

                                    Good sign??
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                                    • smason
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Feb 2010
                                      • 1652
                                      • Canada

                                      #19
                                      Re: ELNA Cap Identification

                                      It's all about the vent style.
                                      Everyone knows that K vents sound the best.
                                      Those look like sword vents. Very muddy sound.
                                      Ks will really open up the mids and highs.

                                      36 Monitors, 3 TVs, 4 Laptops, 1 motherboard, 1 Printer, 1 iMac, 2 hard drive docks and one IP Phone repaired so far....

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                                      • Cap_search
                                        Member
                                        • Jan 2013
                                        • 29
                                        • Earth

                                        #20
                                        Re: ELNA Cap Identification

                                        Originally posted by smason
                                        It's all about the vent style.
                                        Everyone knows that K vents sound the best.
                                        Those look like sword vents. Very muddy sound.
                                        Ks will really open up the mids and highs.

                                        But, most of the modern "K" marks are for those caps used in the signal path, right? And that these usually are "audio grade" mid-to-small caps, and not that good for the "power supply"??

                                        BIGGER Power supply caps shouldn't have high ripple current capabilities and lower ESR??
                                        I've been told that BIG "sword" signed caps are pretty good for the power supply part (but not for the signal path).

                                        But I saw very nice high grade audio caps with the "sword" mark on it (ELNA SILMIC II)

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