Solid state caps v/s Electrolytics?

[Super Nade]

Hey guys,

I was wondering if there are any advantages of using SS caps v/s electrolytics. Gigabyte are marketing their newest board (965P-DQ6-6Q) as having "all solid state caps". Are those caps guarenteed to have lower ESR than Electrolytics, or is it marketing bullshit?

Here is a "preview" of the board. Are those Sanyo caps ?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=108590

[tiresias]

Re: Solid state caps v/s Electrolytics?

Here is a "preview" of the board. Are those Sanyo caps ?

As far as I've seen, Sanyos will often have "SEPC" marked on their tops, while UCC ones will have a little logo above their marking.

The pic you supplied is a little small to be sure, but I've posted a few pics of my board, with emphasis on the caps - perhaps you can compare them to your gigabyte board. (The CPU VRM inputs are 16V UCCs, and the outputs are Sanyo) http://www.liesbeth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=212

[arneson]

Re: Solid state caps v/s Electrolytics?

I thought finally, major advance , looked at all pictures of boards, but no solid state caps.
I guess you mean solid polymer.

[Super Nade]

Re: Solid state caps v/s Electrolytics?

Arneson, what is the difference between the two?

Thanks for the pictures tiresias. Now, what would these caps be?


This is Panasonic, right?


I found a few Tosin's as well:


Are these Chemicon?

[arneson]

Re: Solid state caps v/s Electrolytics?

I'll call it, synthetic capacitance, is a chip performing the functoin of capacitors. It requires support circuitry including small capacitors but the filtering is solid state.
Symantics, solid state at least to me is silicon or germanium or such and that could change any day.

[Shroomie]

Re: Solid state caps v/s Electrolytics?

Yep, you got the brands right.

I'd like to see how those Tosins do. I've seen a few working fine in PSUs, but never on a motherboard.

[gonzo0815]

Re: Solid state caps v/s Electrolytics?

I think this solid polymer hype is somhow marketing, as in generall, is is ok to use al caps, as long as they are from an reputable brand. But anyway, for higher ocing may be there are some benfits, but in generell they are laking in bulk capacitance. In my opinion it would be the best to use those caps as vrm input, and some high capacity al caps as o/p caps. this would be probably the best desing.

[Rainbow]

Re: Solid state caps v/s Electrolytics?

I wonder if they stop using GSC crap on all the other (not-the-most-expensive) boards...

[tiresias]

Re: Solid state caps v/s Electrolytics?

I wonder if they stop using GSC crap on all the other (not-the-most-expensive) boards...

But what if GSC starts making their own polymers too?

[Rainbow]

Re: Solid state caps v/s Electrolytics?

But what if GSC starts making their own polymers too?

First leaking polymer caps?

[Super Nade]

Re: Solid state caps v/s Electrolytics?

Hey guys, I couldn't figure out what the Red Aluminum one was? First pic.

The MB BTW is the new ASUS M2N-E (AM2 non-SLI). I'm building this for my Uni. Next on the list is a "mini" cluster with about 20 computers. Best part is, I get to order the best of the best. For the Cluster, I may go with Kentsfield, depending on if it crunches better than the Socket F Optys.