HQ SMD Rework station soldering iron repair

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  • rtstorm
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    • Feb 2012
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    #21
    Re: HQ SMD Rework station soldering iron repair

    i fix that, but back on begining. No heating unless i put aditional 50ohm resistor between sensor.
    ...the quieter you become the more you are able to hear...

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    • rtstorm
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      #22
      Re: HQ SMD Rework station soldering iron repair

      so i have 58ohm from sensor and station wont start heating. But when i add 50 ohm i get total of 28-29 ohm, and it is heating. why is that?
      ...the quieter you become the more you are able to hear...

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      • stj
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        • Dec 2009
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        #23
        Re: HQ SMD Rework station soldering iron repair

        what chips are on the board?
        i had a bad hot air unit like your station, it had a lm386 i think it was - green corosion on the legs!
        it also had a 555 timer with green crap on the legs too!

        you need to see what amplifier chip is linked to the sensor.

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        • rievax_60
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          • May 2012
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          #24
          Re: HQ SMD Rework station soldering iron repair

          I can add to the confusion. There are 2 basic types of heaters used in Hakko clones. One is actually the original Hakko heater which has a 50ohm PTC thermistor.
          The other is a Chinese made heater that has a thermocouple. It must be a type K because when I connect my Fluke 87-5 to it on temperature range, I get an accurate temperatue reading of the day.
          My Aoyue 936A uses the original Hakko type heater.
          With the hand piece unplugged, I measure 6V at the socket pin holes for the thermistor.
          If a station needs the Chinese type heater with thermocouple, I would expect to measure no voltage.
          Tell us a lot about the PCB so we might figure it out.

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          • rievax_60
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            • May 2012
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            #25
            Re: HQ SMD Rework station soldering iron repair

            This is a schematic for a thermocouple type station. http://s020.**********/i706/1304/f7/f05b997dbf33.jpg
            Actually there will be some voltage at its input. See how well this schematic matches your station. Look for the TL431 first.

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            • stj
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              • Dec 2009
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              #26
              Re: HQ SMD Rework station soldering iron repair

              i suspect it's using a ptc,
              but either way, i'd try replacing any op-amps.
              and inspect the entire board too - after seeing in mine, i would never trust one of these Aoyue type units without a full inspection!

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              • stj
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                • Dec 2009
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                #27
                Re: HQ SMD Rework station soldering iron repair

                @rtstorm.
                can you post good foto's of the pcb(s)

                if your station isnt digital, you could upgrade the controller btw.
                http://dangerousprototypes.com/forum...hp?f=19&t=3475
                Last edited by stj; 10-17-2014, 02:35 PM.

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                • rtstorm
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                  #28
                  Re: HQ SMD Rework station soldering iron repair

                  here it is

                  the IC is LM358.
                  Attached Files
                  ...the quieter you become the more you are able to hear...

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                  • rtstorm
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                    #29
                    Re: HQ SMD Rework station soldering iron repair

                    Originally posted by stj
                    @rtstorm.
                    can you post good foto's of the pcb(s)

                    if your station isnt digital, you could upgrade the controller btw.
                    http://dangerousprototypes.com/forum...hp?f=19&t=3475
                    i woud love to upgrade but where can i make PCB
                    ...the quieter you become the more you are able to hear...

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                    • stj
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                      #30
                      Re: HQ SMD Rework station soldering iron repair

                      they sell it
                      http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/ope...html?cPath=174

                      or use stripboard!

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                      • rtstorm
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                        #31
                        Re: HQ SMD Rework station soldering iron repair

                        ok thanks, but i cannot find the part list for this board. do the sell whole board ready to use or just PCB? I will first like to see part list to check if i can find all of them.
                        ...the quieter you become the more you are able to hear...

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                        • stj
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                          #32
                          Re: HQ SMD Rework station soldering iron repair

                          it was all in the first link.
                          http://dangerousprototypes.com/docs/...v1_development

                          http://dangerousprototypes.com/docs/...ng_Iron_Driver

                          the microcontroller is easy to program,
                          and i'm sure you can source an lcd display from some junk like a fax machine.
                          or ebay one from china.

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                          • rtstorm
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                            #33
                            Re: HQ SMD Rework station soldering iron repair

                            well i almost build it. Will post after i finished.
                            ...the quieter you become the more you are able to hear...

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                            • rtstorm
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                              #34
                              Re: HQ SMD Rework station soldering iron repair

                              Almost done
                              Attached Files
                              ...the quieter you become the more you are able to hear...

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                              • stj
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                                #35
                                Re: HQ SMD Rework station soldering iron repair

                                that's nice.
                                the only thing i would have done different is use connectors instead of screw terminals.

                                are you going with the "buttons" version or the "rotary encoder" version software ?

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                                • keeney123
                                  Lauren
                                  • Sep 2014
                                  • 2536
                                  • United States

                                  #36
                                  Re: HQ SMD Rework station soldering iron repair

                                  I do not know if this is your particular model number Hakko 936 but here are schematics, component layout and parts list. With troubleshooting procedures.
                                  Attached Files

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                                  • keeney123
                                    Lauren
                                    • Sep 2014
                                    • 2536
                                    • United States

                                    #37
                                    Re: HQ SMD Rework station soldering iron repair

                                    Sorry did not see second page.

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                                    • stj
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                                      #38
                                      Re: HQ SMD Rework station soldering iron repair

                                      Originally posted by keeney123
                                      Sorry did not see second page.
                                      yes, it is going through "evolution"

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