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  • senndogg
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Dec 2011
    • 383
    • Albania
    #1

    ...from the start

    i am just beginning to spend some money on "not very expensive" but genuine tools. i can find only ugly cheapo chinese imitations in the local market.
    sa far, based mainly on the eevblog i am (not 100%) convinced on:
    Extech EX330
    Amprobe AM220
    Hakko FX888 (i will operate it with a 220/110V transformer)
    Atten 858D.
    can you recommend me a set of good screwdrivers? what do i need next? i will be focused on TVs and computer displays. thanks.
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    • mariushm
      Badcaps Legend
      • May 2011
      • 3799
      #2
      Re: ...from the start

      Before you go ahead and buy NEW stuff, I really recommend searching ebay for second hand Hakkos.

      Yes, there are clones, but there are also good second hand ones - I bought one a few months ago from an Israel seller.

      For example, right now a seller in US has a bunch of Japanese Hakko 936 that were designed to run on 220v, so you should be able to run it straight from your plugs after just changing the plug:

      http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hakko-936-...item4163757b46

      At 100$ + 30$ in shipping, it's a great deal. The FX-888 here in Romania it's 140 euro + shipping from the local Hakko distributor, so you won't find it cheaper in Europe.

      The Hakko 936 was sold in millions so you'll find tips and heating elements for a long time.

      If you want the Hakko FX-888 I recommend Adafruit Industries:

      https://www.adafruit.com/products/303

      It's 95$ but the shipping will probably be about 40$ and you'll probably also pay customs taxes and VAT and it's also with a 120v transformer.


      I have the Atten 858D+ ... bought after watching the eevblog review as well - get it from eBay, they're good products.

      I also watched the 50$/100$ multimeter reviews/comparative test but didn't agree with the Extech EX3330 as being the best - the Extech had as good readings as the Unitrend meter in the same tests (and worse readings in a few tests) but Dave went with his "gut feeling" when recommending this one, as he trusted the brand more.

      After watching the reviews, I went ahead and bought the Unitrend UT-61E (he reviewed 61D which internally is totally different) for about 55$ shipping included, from eBay. I posted pictures with it here: https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...ighlight=ut61e

      Compared to the Extech and the uni-t 61d in dave's reviews, this 61e is 22.000 count (the more the better) and it's True RMS and also has serial output to send data to a logging application on the PC - the extech I think it's only 4000 count and it's not true rms.

      The Extech model has extra the voltage detect feature (beeps when you're close to live wires) and temperature sensor but again, specs wise is less good than ut61e.

      Actually, eevblog also has a long thread with this meter with pictures and opinions and overall I think the impression was good:

      http://www.eevblog.com/forum/product...ardown-photos/

      There was an online store that used to sell this model discounted (had coupons or price matched another online store)... it was dinodirect.com - now they wised up seeing how popular it was and sell it for 83$ ... you can still get it from eBay for 62$ (free shipping): http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_saca...=ut61e&_sop=15
      Last edited by mariushm; 03-12-2012, 12:00 PM.

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        • retiredcaps
          Badcaps Legend
          • Apr 2010
          • 9271
          #3
          Re: ...from the start

          Originally posted by mariushm
          I also watched the 50$/100$ multimeter reviews/comparative test
          Keep in mind Dave did the $50 shootout back in June 2010 and a lot of new multimeters have come out since then.
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            • senndogg
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Dec 2011
              • 383
              • Albania
              #4
              Re: ...from the start

              thank you for the feedback guys.
              i have seen the 936 before and i think that is what i need. think will get that.
              it is tested for so long and and i dont think will have issues with it.
              i like the Unitrend, but can you give me more options?
              what about a set of screwdrivers? i dont have any clue about a good brand.

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                • KeriJane
                  Mac Enthusiast
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 681
                  • USA
                  #5
                  Re: ...from the start

                  Originally posted by senndogg
                  thank you for the feedback guys.
                  i have seen the 936 before and i think that is what i need. think will get that.
                  it is tested for so long and and i dont think will have issues with it.
                  i like the Unitrend, but can you give me more options?
                  what about a set of screwdrivers? i dont have any clue about a good brand.
                  Here's a suggestion for screwdrivers....

                  Stop by your local Garage or Auto repair shop. They will know where to get the best screwdrivers.

                  Good luck!
                  The More You Learn The Less You Know!

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                    • tron
                      Member
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 47
                      #6
                      Re: ...from the start

                      Precision Soft Screwdrivers

                      http://www.dealextreme.com/p/precisi...iece-set-29230

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                        • senndogg
                          Badcaps Veteran
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 383
                          • Albania
                          #7
                          Re: ...from the start

                          Originally posted by KeriJane
                          Here's a suggestion for screwdrivers....

                          Stop by your local Garage or Auto repair shop. They will know where to get the best screwdrivers.

                          Good luck!
                          there is a huge problem here in Albania with fake chinese tools. every one will try to sell you the same rubbish. i am so bored changing screwdrivers every month (except a blue one bought in Denmark, a gift from a friend of mines).
                          i thought if there was a well known brand (like Hakko for the soldering iron) which i would stick to. anyway im ebaying around. thanks.

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                            • senndogg
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 383
                              • Albania
                              #8
                              Re: ...from the start

                              @tron, thank you but i was looking for a set of solid screwdrivers, by personal choice i wouldnt consider these with the changing tip.

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                                • retiredcaps
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Apr 2010
                                  • 9271
                                  #9
                                  Re: ...from the start

                                  Originally posted by mariushm
                                  Compared to the Extech and the uni-t 61d in dave's reviews, this 61e is 22.000 count (the more the better) and it's True RMS and also has serial output to send data to a logging application on the PC - the extech I think it's only 4000 count and it's not true rms.
                                  I'm not a professional repair tech, just someone learning electronics as a hobby. Based on almost 2 years of observation here and from helping others, let me comment on the above statement.

                                  1) Yes, more resolution and True RMS are desirable, but not necessary for 98% to fix lcd and tvs.

                                  2) 98% of your measurements when fixing lcds and tvs will be DC voltage, resistance, and diode checks.

                                  3) We almost NEVER ask people to measure AC voltage. We always ask people to check the fuse next to the AC plug. We usually ask to check the DC voltage across the large filter capacitor. We can infer AC is working from the DC voltage at the large filter capacitor.

                                  Having said the above, this is why True RMS isn't usually required.

                                  4) The most important voltage, IMHO, is the 5V standby. Whether your multimeter says 5.00 (2000 count), 5.001 (6000 count or 20000 count), or 5.0000 (50000 count) doesn't really matter with respect to resolution.

                                  For some OTHER applications, 20000 count may be required.

                                  5) Accuracy matters when it comes to measuring voltage regulators as most have a +/- 1% tolerance.

                                  6) In 2% of the cases here, troubleshooting may require an oscilliscope.
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                                    • Jasgriff
                                      Badcaps Veteran
                                      • Feb 2012
                                      • 578
                                      • UK
                                      #10
                                      Re: ...from the start

                                      you can't go wrong with snap-on aka blue point. I have a good ratchet one that I use for everything. Had it for years too. They also make a precision version for the smaller stuff.
                                      Fixed so far : 1 Home cinema system, 16 LCD Monitors, 4 LCD TV's

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                                        • senndogg
                                          Badcaps Veteran
                                          • Dec 2011
                                          • 383
                                          • Albania
                                          #11
                                          Re: ...from the start

                                          6) In 2% of the cases here, troubleshooting may require an oscilliscope.[/QUOTE]

                                          this is in my plans too, but later. cant afford it now.

                                          thank you jasgriff, i'll consider your opinion.

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                                            • senndogg
                                              Badcaps Veteran
                                              • Dec 2011
                                              • 383
                                              • Albania
                                              #12
                                              Re: ...from the start

                                              the 936 is the most popular and the most reliable all over the web. i made a few questions to the guy with the japanese lot, a genuine 220V one (for my country) for 135$ seems the best choice. the FX888 would came here for the same price but the 220-110V adaption is extra cost, i'd still prefer the old one even with its old fashioned look.

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