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  • Gabriel
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Jan 2010
    • 620
    • Norway

    #1

    Sanyo wg - production abnormalities ?

    Bought 20 of these on ebay from egekecu - pcmcs.

    Is it just me or are some of these a little strange ? I see small 'F' and big 'F' on the same cap, the printing is not in a straight line - printed more like ~

    Bought these to replace old kzg's , the 7 years old kzg's still measure 0.03 - these 'new' wg esr is higher at 0.05 !
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  • mockingbird
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    • Dec 2008
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    #2
    Re: Sanyo wg - production abnormalities ?

    Sanyo caps are probably one of the most profusely counterfeited caps in China.

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    • Per Hansson
      Super Moderator
      • Jul 2005
      • 5895
      • Sweden

      #3
      Re: Sanyo wg - production abnormalities ?

      Those are fakes, Sanyo caps might look a little odd but not THAT odd lol

      The biggest tale is probably that they stopped using the name Sanyo years ago and are now sold under the brand name Suncon
      Well unless it's old stock but you also already confirmed the ESR is off, it should be 0.036
      P.S. If you don't wanna buy from this site (Why would you not?)
      Then the site Elfa offers service in Norway aswell, probably at higher shipping than from Badcaps but I digress
      Last edited by Per Hansson; 02-18-2013, 02:00 PM.
      "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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      • mockingbird
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        • Dec 2008
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        #4
        Re: Sanyo wg - production abnormalities ?

        It's a good confirmation though that egekecu a.k.a pcmcs is indeed selling fake caps. I was never sure...

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        • Per Hansson
          Super Moderator
          • Jul 2005
          • 5895
          • Sweden

          #5
          Re: Sanyo wg - production abnormalities ?

          Well fake or not the most important thing is how the seller handles the situation when the buyer confronts him about the caps.
          Since he may himself not know if they are fake or not...
          "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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          • Topcat
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            • Oct 2003
            • 16956
            • United States

            #6
            Re: Sanyo wg - production abnormalities ?

            Too cheap to buy from the very place that helps you huh? Karma is a funny thing! Always remember, there's a reason all that ebay garbage is so cheap....and I think you just learned what that reason was.
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            • Gabriel
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Jan 2010
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              #7
              Re: Sanyo wg - production abnormalities ?

              Originally posted by Topcat
              Too cheap to buy from the very place that helps you huh? Karma is a funny thing!
              No I'm not to cheap to buy from the very place that helps me !

              I have actually bought caps from Badcaps store before but if you look through your email you will see that you could not ship all the caps I had ordered and payed for so you said you would ship the missing Samxon rs when you got them back in storage

              Maybe I said to you that you did not have to ship the missing one or two Samxons, I don't remember but I see now that maybe that was a mistake by me

              So no, I'm not to cheap to buy from the very place that helps me ! Also, I pretty sure wg is not in the badcaps store.
              Last edited by Gabriel; 02-18-2013, 03:02 PM.

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              • Topcat
                The Boss Stooge
                • Oct 2003
                • 16956
                • United States

                #8
                Re: Sanyo wg - production abnormalities ?

                Originally posted by Gabriel
                No I'm not to cheap to buy from the very place that helps me !

                I have actually bought caps from Badcaps store before but if you look through your email you will see that you could not ship all the caps I had ordered and payed for so you said you would ship the missing Samxon rs when you got them back in storage

                Maybe I said to you that you did not have to ship the missing one or two Samxons, I don't remember but I see now that maybe that was a mistake by me

                So no, I'm not to cheap to buy from the very place that helps me ! Also, I pretty sure wg is not in the badcaps store.
                I guess I've slept since then...but if the order was shorted, by all means let me know....

                Why the big wild hair for WG's? HZ or HN are a fine replacement for KZG....and those are something I have plenty of....and if you got shorted on your last order, I'd have been glad to send you some at no cost...
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                • Gabriel
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                  • Jan 2010
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                  #9
                  Re: Sanyo wg - production abnormalities ?

                  Hehe I have fetish for sanyo I guess, never had much problem with them. I will have a look and maybe order som from you. As of the missing rs it is no problem, I said so in the mail to you when you informed me.

                  I sent egekecu a message regarding these caps, will update you with his answer - have not given him feedback yet.

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                  • Gabriel
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 620
                    • Norway

                    #10
                    Re: Sanyo wg - production abnormalities ?

                    Sent the seller a question through ebay - Item I received is not as described.

                    I got the caps but I have a question for you, are these original Sanyo caps that you are selling ?

                    Measuring them they are not that low esr as stated in Sanyo datasheet.
                    And got a answer.

                    Dear sir,

                    Thank's for looking.All sanyo capacitor i am selling was took from the sanyo japan factory personally.Therefore i am sure this is original.May be this lot have a problem,i will report to sanyo japan now.

                    On the other hands,will you consider to use the rubycon?

                    Here is the link of rubycon capcitor,


                    http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-Rubycon-MC...item43af8c397a

                    I can ship the rubycon for the replacement or i can refund to you if you want.

                    Thank's again and please let me know what you need.

                    Keep in touch.

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                    • Per Hansson
                      Super Moderator
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 5895
                      • Sweden

                      #11
                      Re: Sanyo wg - production abnormalities ?

                      That's the service of a good eBay seller
                      Last edited by Per Hansson; 02-19-2013, 04:03 PM.
                      "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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                      • theOracle
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 163
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Sanyo wg - production abnormalities ?

                        The REAL Sanyo WG is now called the Suncon WG (Suncon is the company who has always made this cap for Sanyo at the Sun factory in Japan)

                        if you want to be DAMN SURE to get the real ones, just order them from the factory!

                        here is how to get in touch:

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                        (Contact: Kazuyoshi Fukumoto)
                        2320 Paseo De las Americas, Suite 109
                        San Diego, CA, 92154 USA

                        TEL: +1 619-661-8288
                        FAX: +1 619-661-8282
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                        • Gabriel
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                          • Jan 2010
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                          #13
                          Re: Sanyo wg - production abnormalities ?

                          Pretty sure I will have to order for 1000$ or more, if not how many will I get for 8$ ?

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                          • larrymoencurly
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                            • Oct 2004
                            • 960
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                            #14
                            Re: Sanyo wg - production abnormalities ?

                            They look identical to these genuine 470uF, 16V Sanyo WGs bought 2-3 years ago:
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                            • Gabriel
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 620
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                              #15
                              Re: Sanyo wg - production abnormalities ?

                              No, if you look at my pictures you can see the 'F' is different sizes atleast on one cap, also the printing on mine is crooked like ~.

                              Yours does not have these defects as I can see, did you buy them from pcmcs and if so did you measure them ?

                              I bought 20 of them, all of them measured 0.05 instead of 0.03.

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                              • larrymoencurly
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                                • Oct 2004
                                • 960
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: Sanyo wg - production abnormalities ?

                                Originally posted by Gabriel
                                No, if you look at my pictures you can see the 'F' is different sizes atleast on one cap, also the printing on mine is crooked like ~.

                                Yours does not have these defects as I can see, did you buy them from pcmcs and if so did you measure them ?

                                I bought 20 of them, all of them measured 0.05 instead of 0.03.
                                I can notice the F riding the ridge on your second to the bottom cap is bigger than the other F, and it seems there's more space between the u and F than on my Sanyos. Mine measured .02 - .03 ohm, one maybe almost .04 ohm, with the Bob Parker ESR meter and came from B&D Enterprises, an old Sanyo distributor.

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