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  • Maxxarcade
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Jul 2006
    • 973

    #1

    Samsung Plasma power supply, blown standby IC

    Working on a 42" Planar plasma TV that uses a Samsung power supply. IC2 is melted, which appears to be the IC for the standby power circuit.

    The power supply is Model B4K-50, Assy #LJ44-00051A.

    Anyone here worked on one of these that could tell me the chip number? It's too burned to read. It is an 8 pin IC, with only 7 pins attached.

    I checked around and did not find any other shorts, and no fuses are blown. I'll be checking the caps before I power it up with a new chip.

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  • Krankshaft
    Badcaps Legend
    • Jan 2007
    • 2328
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Samsung Plasma power supply, blown standby IC

    Does it have an external switching transistor?

    If not then it's probably a Power Innovations TOP IC (PWM and Switcher in one 8 pin package). They are used alot in low power applications (especially standbys) where small part count is a priority.
    Elements of the past and the future combining to make something not quite as good as either.

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    • Toasty
      Badcaps Legend
      • Jul 2007
      • 4171

      #3
      Re: Samsung Plasma power supply, blown standby IC

      Samsung PS42P3S ?

      B4K-50 - a.k.a. BN96-00249A

      See this thread. Maybe OP will have other pics or can look at his.

      https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?p=93294

      Good Hunting!
      veritas odium parit

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      • Maxxarcade
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Jul 2006
        • 973

        #4
        Re: Samsung Plasma power supply, blown standby IC

        Originally posted by Toasty
        Samsung PS42P3S ?

        B4K-50 - a.k.a. BN96-00249A

        See this thread. Maybe OP will have other pics or can look at his.

        https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?p=93294

        Good Hunting!

        Thanks, I was able to find the service manual for that PS42P35, which uses the same power supply as this Planar set. Looks like the chip is an IEC2A280. I can't find one anywhere though
        Last edited by Maxxarcade; 01-30-2010, 06:20 PM.

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        • ecking767
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Oct 2009
          • 492
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Samsung Plasma power supply, blown standby IC

          Hello Maxxarcade

          This website sell the chip you need

          http://www.bluestar-online.com/Searc...14&Search.y=17

          good luck with your repairs
          ecking767

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          • Maxxarcade
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Jul 2006
            • 973

            #6
            Re: Samsung Plasma power supply, blown standby IC

            Originally posted by ecking767
            Hello Maxxarcade

            This website sell the chip you need

            http://www.bluestar-online.com/Searc...14&Search.y=17

            good luck with your repairs
            ecking767
            Thanks!

            I'll order the chip, and post the results when I get it installed.

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            • Toasty
              Badcaps Legend
              • Jul 2007
              • 4171

              #7
              Re: Samsung Plasma power supply, blown standby IC

              >>Looks like the chip is an IEC2A280. I can't find one anywhere though<<

              Does your Google not work???
              Bluestar is the first hit, then Digikey (min qty 2000) and then Mouser a few after that.

              Mouser stocks them too, at 1/3 the price.

              http://www.mouser.com/search/Product...kTzhe9BA%3D%3D

              I wouldn't think these just blow out like that without some other component failure. I'd do some investigating of surrounding components before ordering.
              veritas odium parit

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              • Maxxarcade
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Jul 2006
                • 973

                #8
                Re: Samsung Plasma power supply, blown standby IC

                Originally posted by Toasty
                >>Looks like the chip is an IEC2A280. I can't find one anywhere though<<

                Does your Google not work???
                Bluestar is the first hit, then Digikey (min qty 2000) and then Mouser a few after that.

                Mouser stocks them too, at 1/3 the price.

                http://www.mouser.com/search/Product...kTzhe9BA%3D%3D

                I wouldn't think these just blow out like that without some other component failure. I'd do some investigating of surrounding components before ordering.
                Wow, I must have left out a letter or something. Nothing turned up when I looked earlier.

                I will inspect the circuit before I power it up. There's not much to it though. The voltage comes off the bridge and goes right to the chip, then the chip goes right to the transformer. This TV was used in a bar and may have been hit by a power surge. I'm sure there are some bad caps too. I already replaced 3 leaking Samwha's in another section.

                This was another situation where the circuit blew to protect the fuse, instead of the other way round

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                • Wizard
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 2296

                  #9
                  Re: Samsung Plasma power supply, blown standby IC

                  This can cause by bad transformer or the output diode or shorted load.

                  Yes, this is all in one smart PWM with power MOSFET transistor built in. Nice stuff.

                  There are MOV around the input filter network as well. Check other items to make sure board is salvageable.

                  Cheers, Wizard

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                  • Krankshaft
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 2328
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Samsung Plasma power supply, blown standby IC

                    The datasheet says that it has over voltage and over current protection if the IC sensed an overload then it should have shut down by removing drive from the FET according to the datasheet.

                    The only way it would have flared up like that is if the internal switching FET shorted out protection circuit can't do anything then. The damage does look like it could have come from a power surge.

                    But be sure to check the bridge rectifier, transformer with a DMM, and the output rectifier as suggested. When something blows up this bad you have to check the surrounding parts to prevent a repeat.

                    Hope the traces are still in good shape otherwise you're going to have to do some reconstructive surgery.
                    Last edited by Krankshaft; 01-31-2010, 11:22 AM.
                    Elements of the past and the future combining to make something not quite as good as either.

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                    • Maxxarcade
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 973

                      #11
                      Re: Samsung Plasma power supply, blown standby IC

                      Just letting you guys know that I got it working. Had to replace a few caps, a resistor, and the IC.

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                      • Krankshaft
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 2328
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                        #12
                        Re: Samsung Plasma power supply, blown standby IC

                        Nice job!

                        Another TV saved from the landfill.
                        Elements of the past and the future combining to make something not quite as good as either.

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                        • Wizard
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 2296

                          #13
                          Re: Samsung Plasma power supply, blown standby IC

                          Excellent!

                          Cheers, Wizard

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                          • glegge
                            New Member
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 2

                            #14
                            Re: Samsung Plasma power supply, blown standby IC

                            Originally posted by Maxxarcade
                            Thanks, I was able to find the service manual for that PS42P35, which uses the same power supply as this Planar set. Looks like the chip is an IEC2A280. I can't find one anywhere though
                            Hey, is there any chance you could forward the service manual for the lj44-00051a onto me? as you say, it's used in the ps42p35 manual you found.

                            many thanks
                            kind regards all the way from New Zealand
                            Gavin

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                            • Maxxarcade
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 973

                              #15
                              Re: Samsung Plasma power supply, blown standby IC

                              Originally posted by glegge
                              Hey, is there any chance you could forward the service manual for the lj44-00051a onto me? as you say, it's used in the ps42p35 manual you found.

                              many thanks
                              kind regards all the way from New Zealand
                              Gavin
                              What's your email?

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                              • Krankshaft
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 2328
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                                #16
                                Re: Samsung Plasma power supply, blown standby IC

                                I'd recommend you send your e-mail through PM alot of spammers use crawlers to capture emails from forums.
                                Elements of the past and the future combining to make something not quite as good as either.

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                                • Maxxarcade
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Jul 2006
                                  • 973

                                  #17
                                  Re: Samsung Plasma power supply, blown standby IC

                                  Well, I got 4 more of these sets in, all with the same problem. I had to order more caps because I went through so many in one night.

                                  However, one of them also has a blown KA1M0880B IC. None of my familiar sources carry that part. Is it possible that there is an updated replacement or cross?

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                                  • chevelle_nut
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Dec 2008
                                    • 62

                                    #18
                                    Re: Samsung Plasma power supply, blown standby IC

                                    The Fairchild site lists that as a good #, but if it has the KA1M0880BYDTU they suggest using a FS7M0880YDTU. They also list a FS7M0880 power switch as well.

                                    hope this helps

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                                    • Maxxarcade
                                      Badcaps Veteran
                                      • Jul 2006
                                      • 973

                                      #19
                                      Re: Samsung Plasma power supply, blown standby IC

                                      Originally posted by chevelle_nut
                                      The Fairchild site lists that as a good #, but if it has the KA1M0880BYDTU they suggest using a FS7M0880YDTU. They also list a FS7M0880 power switch as well.

                                      hope this helps
                                      Yep, I found that info the other day and ordered one to try. The replacement is 70Khz and the original is 67Khz, so hopefully they are truly compatible. I'll probably have to re-adjust the output voltage, but no big deal.

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                                      • glegge
                                        New Member
                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 2

                                        #20
                                        Re: Samsung Plasma power supply, blown standby IC

                                        Originally posted by Maxxarcade
                                        What's your email?
                                        hi there, thanks for replying, sorry it's taken so long to get back, but i dont check in here often.

                                        my email is glegge@clear.net.nz.

                                        I've had a go tonight at fixing the supply. after replacing caps, i get a red light on the control board above it, and the green light comes on but no VS voltage.
                                        I'm guessing it's the big NEC mosfets 'NEC k2372' (shorted) and the IR2109 (now has it's lid blown off).

                                        i'm really looking forward to getting the schematics so i can trace this fault down easier and get this set going again.

                                        many thanks!
                                        i really appreciate your forwarding on this schematic.
                                        Gavin

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