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  • Ifixstuff9
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2017
    • 120
    • USA

    #1

    LG 42LB5600-UZ sound but no backlight

    I have an LG 42LB5600-UZ. When I connect the TV to a video source I can hear sound and I can see an image when I do the flashlight test. If I open the TV and measure the voltage coming from the power board to the LEDs I get nothing. I'm pretty sure I have a bad power board.

    So, here are my questions:
    Is there any way I can test the back light before ordering parts?
    Is there a way I might be able to repair the board? The fact that the backlight has absolutely no power yet the rest of the TV works fine leads me to believe that it might just be one bad component that needs to be swapped out.
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  • dskall
    Badcaps Legend
    • Oct 2016
    • 2905
    • usa

    #2
    Re: LG 42LB5600-UZ sound but no backlight

    Assume led's. Not enough pictures to see. You have no 24v
    I assume no responsibility for any stupid suggestions I might post.

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    • Ifixstuff9
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2017
      • 120
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      #3
      Re: LG 42LB5600-UZ sound but no backlight

      Whats pictures do you need? I can add more if you want.

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      • dskall
        Badcaps Legend
        • Oct 2016
        • 2905
        • usa

        #4
        Re: LG 42LB5600-UZ sound but no backlight

        Whole back of tv. The rest of the boards. Close up of connectors
        I assume no responsibility for any stupid suggestions I might post.

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        • Ifixstuff9
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2017
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          #5
          Re: LG 42LB5600-UZ sound but no backlight

          Here are the pictures you asked for.
          Attached Files

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          • attainteddragon
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Apr 2013
            • 764
            • australia

            #6
            Re: LG 42LB5600-UZ sound but no backlight

            since you have a pic on screen but no backlights, you are looking at an led failure unless there is no voltage on led+, but it is an lg and will almost always be led failure in this situation.
            WHY CAN'T PHILIPS USE PHILLIPS HEAD SCREWS?

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            • Ifixstuff9
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2017
              • 120
              • USA

              #7
              Re: LG 42LB5600-UZ sound but no backlight

              I have no voltage on LED+, hence my suspicion that the power supply is bad. I did some research on this model and it seems like replacing the power supply is a common fix for this model.

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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
                • USA

                #8
                Re: LG 42LB5600-UZ sound but no backlight

                Turn TV off, set DCV meter to 600VDC range, then put DCV meter's black probe on the chassis and red probe of the meter on the LED+ pin of the LED connector, keep an eye on the meter then turn on the TV to see how high the Voltage goes up to then wait about 5 seconds to see how low it goes down to.
                https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1499898761
                BTW, the solder joints for D201 (this one supplies the B+ to the Voltage boost converter for the LED power supply section), D208 do not look good, you can see small ring around the legs. I would re-solder all the transformer legs and all the legs of the devices that are mounted to the heatsink too.
                LG EAY63071904 Power Supply / LED Board.
                http://www.shopjimmy.com/lg-eay63071...led-board.htm#
                Last edited by budm; 07-12-2017, 08:46 PM.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • dskall
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Oct 2016
                  • 2905
                  • usa

                  #9
                  Re: LG 42LB5600-UZ sound but no backlight

                  Need voltages from connector that goes from power supply board to main board. Will need pin#- PIN DESCRIPTION -Pin voltage in standby-Pin voltage when pushing power button and picture of connector on power supply board.
                  Format:
                  Pin# - Pin Description - Pin Voltage standby - Pin voltage power on
                  1 - XXXXXXX - XXv - XXXv
                  2 - XXXXXXX - XXXv - XXXv
                  3 - XXXXXXX - XXXv - XXXv
                  4 - etc.
                  I assume no responsibility for any stupid suggestions I might post.

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                  • Ifixstuff9
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2017
                    • 120
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: LG 42LB5600-UZ sound but no backlight

                    Sorry I didn't reply until now. I just went ahead and ordered a new power supply, something came up and I don't have time to work on the TV anymore. Tomorrow I might take a look at the power supply and re-solder those connections if I have the time.

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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: LG 42LB5600-UZ sound but no backlight

                      BTW, when you measure the LED+, what did you use for the GND reference?
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • Ifixstuff9
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2017
                        • 120
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: LG 42LB5600-UZ sound but no backlight

                        I was using LED- as a reference. I decided to use the chassis as GND reference and I got 114 volts. So, I guess that means the back light is bad?

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                        • budm
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 40746
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: LG 42LB5600-UZ sound but no backlight

                          Did you do the test as instruct by watching the Voltage to see how high it goes up to before dropping down to 114VDC? That is important to find out of the Boost converter starts at all.
                          The LED Voltage should be around 200V with working LED (as printed on the board), but it will go up a lot more higher than that if the LED string has open circuit. Right now the feeding Voltage to the Boost converter looks to be 114V as you have measured.
                          Last edited by budm; 07-15-2017, 02:57 PM.
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          • Ifixstuff9
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2017
                            • 120
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: LG 42LB5600-UZ sound but no backlight

                            I did the test. When I first power on the TV I get 248 VDC, but that voltage drops down to 104 VDC shortly after.

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                            • budm
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 40746
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: LG 42LB5600-UZ sound but no backlight

                              Originally posted by Ifixstuff9
                              I did the test. When I first power on the TV I get 248 VDC, but that voltage drops down to 104 VDC shortly after.
                              OK, that is what I want to see when the TV is first turned on which is VERY important info when troubleshooting LED backlights problem because opening up the LCD panel is the last thing you will want to do. Time to open up the panel to get to the LED strips and wiring.
                              Last edited by budm; 07-15-2017, 04:58 PM.
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                              • Ifixstuff9
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2017
                                • 120
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: LG 42LB5600-UZ sound but no backlight

                                The panel type is T420HVF07.1, and its made by AU Optronics. I found a replacement LED kit for the panel on shopjimmy.com, but its out of stock. Will any other led strips work or does it absolutely have to be one for the T420HVF07.1 panel?

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                                • budm
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Feb 2010
                                  • 40746
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: LG 42LB5600-UZ sound but no backlight

                                  The strips have to match panel otherwise they may fit or work properly, IE same amount of LEDs and Voltages/Current requirement.
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                  Comment

                                  • Ifixstuff9
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Jul 2017
                                    • 120
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: LG 42LB5600-UZ sound but no backlight

                                    Ok, I'll just wait until I can find an exact replacement.

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                                    • jbfr_54
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Dec 2012
                                      • 52
                                      • France

                                      #19
                                      Re: LG 42LB5600-UZ sound but no backlight

                                      Why don't you try replacing individual LED's ? It's not so hard and a lot lot more economical (about 10 cents each LED replaced). I personnally ordered LED's 3528 rated at 400 mA form Aliexpress and repaired several Toshiba, LG and Samsung TV's using these. A lot of posts explain how to, even youtube movies describe how to proceed. The most critical is to open the screen to access the strips. You have to test each LED using a multimeter by removing a bit of white painting on the strips PCB lanes to allow electrical contact with probes (try both polarities for testing). When each defective LED is identified, do not remove the strips from the screen chassis, remove the lens using a cutter, then the with plastic cache. Use a thermal gun to gently warm the LED that should be freed and move away. Use soldering flux to ease resoldering of new LED (using a magnifying lens is a good idea). Hold the new LED in the correct position (polarity and well above solder pads), heat each pad from side of LED to make solder stick to LED pads together with the PCB pads. It is not always nécessary to add solder as the flux will ease the existing solder on the PCB to move to the LED. DO NOT HEAT TOO LONG THE LED, IF NOT OK IN FEW SECONDS WAIT A BIT AND RETRY. Mke sure that the LED is now correctly soldered and functionnal. Glue the cache back in place, the lens (using cyanolide glue on the 3 plastic pads of the PCB), make sure the lens is aligned with the LED.
                                      You better try as anyway your strip(s) is bad, it will cost you only the buying of the LED's (about 10$ for a hundred).
                                      Good luck.

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                                      • Ifixstuff9
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Jul 2017
                                        • 120
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: LG 42LB5600-UZ sound but no backlight

                                        Sounds like a good idea, I might as well give it a shot because the LEDs are so cheap.

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