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  • Hexxus
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    • Mar 2016
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    #1

    Emerson LC320EM2 blown fuse but thats not all

    The post here:
    1. https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=27899
    2. https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...light=LC320EM2


    have similar boards and if not exact problems pretty close to mine

    Here is a repair kit I found that I thought about getting: http://www.shopjimmy.com/emerson-a17...repair-kit.htm

    I am trying to find out what is wrong with this power supply. It blew a fuse, put another one in and it blew as well so something deeper is the problem.

    I only have a multimeter atm to work with, I will be getting a solder gun shortly.

    Board info:

    Ive test for a short in this picture:
    all three legs short to each other. componet data sheet
    2-3 = 0.3
    1-2 = 0.4
    1-3 = 0.4

    In this picture, testing the green resister ohms i got .5:
  • Hexxus
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    • Mar 2016
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    #2
    Re: Emerson LC320EM2 blown fuse but thats not all

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    • martino
      Not so "senior"
      • Aug 2013
      • 997
      • canada

      #3
      Re: Emerson LC320EM2 blown fuse but thats not all

      remove that fet off the board,measure board at the 3 pins if short is now gone.
      Good picture from bottom of board around that area? also one from top?



      They list the components in that repair kit.I would for sure test all those.
      Last edited by martino; 03-09-2016, 10:51 PM.
      Proud owner of dozens of broken TV's and many,many,many boards.


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      • Hexxus
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        • Mar 2016
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        #4
        Re: Emerson LC320EM2 blown fuse but thats not all

        Originally posted by martino
        remove that fet off the board,measure board at the 3 pins if short is now gone.
        Good picture from bottom of board around that area? also one from top?



        They list the components in that repair kit.I would for sure test all those.
        Thanks for the reply. Solder station is on the way :P Will get back to you ASAP.

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        • Hexxus
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          • Mar 2016
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          #5
          Re: Emerson LC320EM2 blown fuse but thats not all

          Originally posted by martino
          remove that fet off the board,measure board at the 3 pins if short is now gone.
          Solder pads on board
          pins 1-2 = 1 on meter no beep)
          pins 1-3 = 320ish on meter no beep
          pins 2-3 = 1500ish on meter no beep

          testing the pads image, numbers but no beep. I am not sure what that means.

          Fet pins
          all pins short to each other (beep)


          Images
          Bottom 1
          Bottom 2

          Top

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          • martino
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            • Aug 2013
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            • canada

            #6
            Re: Emerson LC320EM2 blown fuse but thats not all

            I would retest that with the meter on the 2000 ohm scale.If no reading,move it to the 20k ohm scale.
            Right now meter is trying to read voltage drop on a diode.

            Pictures without using flash,we need to be able to see the traces and components
            Last edited by martino; 03-10-2016, 10:50 PM.
            Proud owner of dozens of broken TV's and many,many,many boards.


            Our website and passion:http://hollenhundshepherds.com/

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            • Hexxus
              Member
              • Mar 2016
              • 15
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              #7
              Re: Emerson LC320EM2 blown fuse but thats not all

              Originally posted by martino
              I would retest that with the meter on the 2000 ohm scale.If no reading,move it to the 20k ohm scale.
              Right now meter is trying to read voltage drop on a diode.
              Retest the fet diode pins or the solder pads on the board? The last results here:
              Solder pads on board
              pins 1-2 = 1 on meter no beep)
              pins 1-3 = 320ish on meter no beep
              pins 2-3 = 1500ish on meter no beep
              Are the pads on the board using the continuity/short setting as shown here: http://i.imgur.com/7it09aG.jpg



              The FET diode pins on 2000 ohm and 20k ohm
              1-2 = 0
              2-3 = 0
              1-3 = 0

              on 200 ohm
              1-2 = 0.9
              2-3 = 0.4
              1-3 = 0.7

              fet solder pads on board
              1-2 = 1180 @ 2000 ohm
              2-3 = 1700 @ 2000 ohm
              1-3 = 325 @ 2000 ohm

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              • martino
                Not so "senior"
                • Aug 2013
                • 997
                • canada

                #8
                Re: Emerson LC320EM2 blown fuse but thats not all

                Fet is toast for sure. The 325 ohm between pin 1-3 on the board concerns me,but I cant see in those pictures what connected there. Can we get better pictures from top and bottom,that clearly show the traces around that dead fret etc?
                Proud owner of dozens of broken TV's and many,many,many boards.


                Our website and passion:http://hollenhundshepherds.com/

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                • Hexxus
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                  • Mar 2016
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                  #9
                  Re: Emerson LC320EM2 blown fuse but thats not all

                  Ill get a better camera and snap some pics in the morning.

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                  • Hexxus
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                    • Mar 2016
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                    #10
                    Re: Emerson LC320EM2 blown fuse but thats not all

                    I have been a little busy so I will get the pics asap. I received the repair parts I ordered, just waiting on the soldering station now.

                    I would like to test these parts before I go installing them. I am sure they are good as they should be new but you never know. I suppose I just look up the specs and test for it? I have never done that before.

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                    • Hexxus
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                      • Mar 2016
                      • 15
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                      #11
                      Re: Emerson LC320EM2 blown fuse but thats not all

                      While testing these I was getting strange and wildly changing readings. After messing with the multi-meter a couple times I would get a steady reading.
                      Pictures aren't of the actual part I received but look like them.
                      I am calling these parts by what they are listed on the website I ordered them from.

                      # - Part type - Model? - test results - setting - locations

                      2x Resistors 5W2.2RJ = 2.4 @ 200 ohms (Location R602, R11)

                      1x Resistors Colors (L to R): Brown Grey Silver Gold [ 0.18 ohms 5% tolerance?] = 0.4 @ 200 ohs (Location R608)


                      3x Diodes Unknown # = 660/870/890 Diode (Location D670, D610, D604)


                      1x Diode Unknown # = 340 Diode (Location D640)


                      1x Transistors D667 AC 9H2 = Don't know how to test or got strange results (Location Q601)


                      1x Transistors FQPF13N50C = Don't know how to test or got strange results (Location Q600)


                      1x Fuse F 4A 250V = Visual inspection not burnt/broken (Location F601)
                      Last edited by Hexxus; 03-12-2016, 09:48 PM. Reason: added pictures

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                      • CapLeaker
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                        • Dec 2014
                        • 8196
                        • Canada

                        #12
                        Re: Emerson LC320EM2 blown fuse but thats not all

                        I've repaired this before and others too. Look at this thread and check the components. Some components have to be unsoldered (because of the circuit they are in) in order to measure correctly.

                        https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...hlight=emerson

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                        • Hexxus
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                          #13
                          Re: Emerson LC320EM2 blown fuse but thats not all

                          Originally posted by CapLeaker
                          Some components have to be unsoldered (because of the circuit they are in) in order to measure correctly.[/url]
                          The components I list tested above are brand new.

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                          • Hexxus
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                            • Mar 2016
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                            #14
                            Re: Emerson LC320EM2 blown fuse but thats not all

                            Originally posted by martino
                            Can we get better pictures from top and bottom,that clearly show the traces around that dead fret etc?
                            Maybe these are good?



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                            • jetadm123
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 2169

                              #15
                              Re: Emerson LC320EM2 blown fuse but thats not all

                              In the previous post, last picture. Is that blue capacitor next to the yellow transformer cracked in half?

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                              • Hexxus
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                                • Mar 2016
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                                #16
                                Re: Emerson LC320EM2 blown fuse but thats not all

                                Originally posted by jetadm123
                                In the previous post, last picture. Is that blue capacitor next to the yellow transformer cracked in half?
                                That is actually a beard hair of mine :P

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                                • woodman45
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Aug 2015
                                  • 87
                                  • U.S.A

                                  #17
                                  Re: Emerson LC320EM2 blown fuse but thats not all

                                  Look at post #11 in this thread for service manual
                                  https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=49250

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                                  • CapLeaker
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                                    • Dec 2014
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Emerson LC320EM2 blown fuse but thats not all

                                    Originally posted by woodman45
                                    Look at post #11 in this thread for service manual
                                    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=49250
                                    I had forgotten about this one...

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                                    • Hexxus
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                                      • Mar 2016
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                                      #19
                                      Re: Emerson LC320EM2 blown fuse but thats not all

                                      Originally posted by woodman45
                                      Look at post #11 in this thread for service manual
                                      https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=49250
                                      Thanks for posting this. I however have no idea what I am looking at with all that technical blueprint.

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                                      • woodman45
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                                        • Aug 2015
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                                        • U.S.A

                                        #20
                                        Re: Emerson LC320EM2 blown fuse but thats not all

                                        Originally posted by Hexxus
                                        Thanks for posting this. I however have no idea what I am looking at with all that technical blueprint.
                                        Most service manuals have a troubleshooting chart of symptoms and of what to test.plus it gives specs to different parts.i posted it to use for reference.

                                        If you google how to test diodes and different components with a multi-meter there are a lot of vids out there that will help.

                                        I've repaired a few of these boards and found that you're better off to replace every component that comes in the repair kit.

                                        Good luck👍

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