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  • ddarn
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2014
    • 76
    • United States

    #41
    Re: Emerson hdtv troubleshooting

    look at post 14..budm gets clear pics from shopjimmy

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    • martino
      Not so "senior"
      • Aug 2013
      • 997
      • canada

      #42
      Re: Emerson hdtv troubleshooting

      I tried tracing back the all 5volt with pic from post #14,but having a hard time,any one have better eyes then me?
      Proud owner of dozens of broken TV's and many,many,many boards.


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      • ddarn
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2014
        • 76
        • United States

        #43
        Re: Emerson hdtv troubleshooting

        any better pics that can be found?

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        • budm
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 40746
          • USA

          #44
          Re: Emerson hdtv troubleshooting

          Try this service manual, per shopjimmy, this model uses the same power supply.
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          • martino
            Not so "senior"
            • Aug 2013
            • 997
            • canada

            #45
            Re: Emerson hdtv troubleshooting

            Budm,what would we do without you?
            Proud owner of dozens of broken TV's and many,many,many boards.


            Our website and passion:http://hollenhundshepherds.com/

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #46
              Re: Emerson hdtv troubleshooting

              Diagram for the power supply board. It looks real close to the OP board.
              Attached Files
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • ddarn
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2014
                • 76
                • United States

                #47
                Re: Emerson hdtv troubleshooting

                so what gets tested next?

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                • martino
                  Not so "senior"
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 997
                  • canada

                  #48
                  Re: Emerson hdtv troubleshooting

                  Sry,been busy doing yard work etc. was hoping someone would jump in. Lol. I downloaded the schematics. Will check in a few hours.
                  Proud owner of dozens of broken TV's and many,many,many boards.


                  Our website and passion:http://hollenhundshepherds.com/

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                  • martino
                    Not so "senior"
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 997
                    • canada

                    #49
                    Re: Emerson hdtv troubleshooting

                    See pic....
                    Red probe on the leg of D637,black on chassis of tv,meter on 200volt scale DC...
                    What voltage do you read there...
                    Attached Files
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                    • ddarn
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2014
                      • 76
                      • United States

                      #50
                      Re: Emerson hdtv troubleshooting

                      I apologize..my electricity was out here again because of wind..anyway concerning the last check the card isnt connected to the tv, so what else can I use to put the black probe on besides the chassis of the tv?

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                      • selldoor
                        Slow Learner
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 7870

                        #51
                        Re: Emerson hdtv troubleshooting

                        You can use one of the wire jumpers that is marked GND Has to be on the COLD side
                        example J1086 in the picture straight down from the big red 2.
                        Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                        • ddarn
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2014
                          • 76
                          • United States

                          #52
                          Re: Emerson hdtv troubleshooting

                          8.83v

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                          • martino
                            Not so "senior"
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 997
                            • canada

                            #53
                            Re: Emerson hdtv troubleshooting

                            Originally posted by ddarn
                            8.83v
                            That should be approx 24volts....

                            Give me a minute,I need to see if that's with powerboard forced on or in standby..It giving 8.83volt already should almost indicate that it's somewhat active but not correctly...
                            Proud owner of dozens of broken TV's and many,many,many boards.


                            Our website and passion:http://hollenhundshepherds.com/

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                            • martino
                              Not so "senior"
                              • Aug 2013
                              • 997
                              • canada

                              #54
                              Re: Emerson hdtv troubleshooting

                              ***just to be sure,you measured on the leg of D637 that's in the circle,correct?****

                              Let's assume you did,now right next to D637 you see a smaller diode D648,can you desolder one of it's legs(doesn't matter which one)so it's out of the board and then re-measure the same leg off D637? Still 8.83volt?

                              D648 is parallel between GND and the 24 volt line,I'm thinking that if D648 is leaking(halve shorted) it could pull down the 24 to 8.83 and also affect the all 5volt line a bit(4.43volt) as they both come out of the same transformer.D648 being a zener diode,when the voltage spike happened,it might have seen a over voltage and could have sustained damage as it was trying to dim the spike...just a thought....
                              Last edited by martino; 07-25-2014, 04:58 PM.
                              Proud owner of dozens of broken TV's and many,many,many boards.


                              Our website and passion:http://hollenhundshepherds.com/

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                              • ddarn
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2014
                                • 76
                                • United States

                                #55
                                Re: Emerson hdtv troubleshooting

                                yeah I will desolder it when I get off of work tonight and give you the results tommorrow.

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                                • ddarn
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Jun 2014
                                  • 76
                                  • United States

                                  #56
                                  Re: Emerson hdtv troubleshooting

                                  it came out to be 9.21 volts

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                                  • martino
                                    Not so "senior"
                                    • Aug 2013
                                    • 997
                                    • canada

                                    #57
                                    Re: Emerson hdtv troubleshooting

                                    hmm...I'm wondering if T600 get's driven correctly...24v=8.83,5v=4.43 etc....
                                    With meter on 200volt DC(just to be safe) can you measure across the legs of diode D604?red probe on one leg,black probe on the other
                                    It's right below the 2 white resistors on the HOT side(careful).
                                    It should read 3.7 volt DC. I say,use 200 volt scale just to be safe,if you do see 3. something,you could turn scale to 20 volt.
                                    Proud owner of dozens of broken TV's and many,many,many boards.


                                    Our website and passion:http://hollenhundshepherds.com/

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                                    • martino
                                      Not so "senior"
                                      • Aug 2013
                                      • 997
                                      • canada

                                      #58
                                      Re: Emerson hdtv troubleshooting

                                      I would like to get budm in here now too,lol.... It's a fairly simple power supply,but the lower voltages it's given us is confusing me a bit,it's functioning but not on full 100%.
                                      Budm,I'm thinking Q600/Q601 circuit being drawn down?
                                      Last edited by martino; 07-30-2014, 11:59 PM.
                                      Proud owner of dozens of broken TV's and many,many,many boards.


                                      Our website and passion:http://hollenhundshepherds.com/

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                                      • ddarn
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Jun 2014
                                        • 76
                                        • United States

                                        #59
                                        Re: Emerson hdtv troubleshooting

                                        Originally posted by martino
                                        hmm...I'm wondering if T600 get's driven correctly...24v=8.83,5v=4.43 etc....
                                        With meter on 200volt DC(just to be safe) can you measure across the legs of diode D604?red probe on one leg,black probe on the other
                                        It's right below the 2 white resistors on the HOT side(careful).
                                        It should read 3.7 volt DC. I say,use 200 volt scale just to be safe,if you do see 3. something,you could turn scale to 20 volt.
                                        2.43 volts

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                                        • ddarn
                                          Senior Member
                                          • Jun 2014
                                          • 76
                                          • United States

                                          #60
                                          Re: Emerson hdtv troubleshooting

                                          Originally posted by ddarn
                                          2.43 volts
                                          and the other diode still has the one leg removed from the board.

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