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  • ivtec
    Badcaps Legend
    • Dec 2008
    • 1967
    • USA

    #21
    Re: WinXP Sp 4?

    Originally posted by diif
    No. XP is insecure and outdated.
    Either use it offline where updates don't matter or use a different operating system.
    I've been using my Sony Centrino Pentium M 1.5ghz 1g mem with Pro XP SP3 mostly streaming IPTV and it does a great job, also do browse the web and so far no issues,as long you turn off updates and only go to trusty sites you will be fine,i even travel with it to Europe and had no issues,if i do i just reinstall OPS from my recovery disks.

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    • Per Hansson
      Super Moderator
      • Jul 2005
      • 5895
      • Sweden

      #22
      Re: WinXP Sp 4?

      Originally posted by Topcat
      Yes, I knew that....which is why I suggested rollup...or keeping with the theme of the thread, an 'unofficial' SP...
      Yes no disagreements there, it's what I meant too!
      Thing is MS seems hell bent on making the lives of IT admins harder.
      So I'm not counting at it, especially this late in the lifecycle of the OS!
      "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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      • ivtec
        Badcaps Legend
        • Dec 2008
        • 1967
        • USA

        #23
        Re: WinXP Sp 4?

        Originally posted by mockingbird
        Yes, I tried the XP SP4 last week.

        Installed without a hitch, and I highly recommend it.

        XP will be updated until 2019, so it's still a viable OS for production environments. After applying the SP, Microsoft Update showed new updates for POSReady 2009, installed those, and everything was hunkydory.
        Hi mockingbird; can one download to a CD SP4 ?and is SP4 a Pack of SP2,Sp3 ?thanks.

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        • mockingbird
          Badcaps Legend
          • Dec 2008
          • 5484
          • -

          #24
          Re: WinXP Sp 4?

          I asked this question, and was told that it is designed to fit on TWO CDs post-slipstream...

          I asked exactly how that works, but no one has answered yet, so I shall ask again.

          I think the best thing to do is to start off with an SP0 original ISO when doing the slipstream. You can do it the old-fashion way, through the command line, or use RVMi or nLite.

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          • Stefan Payne
            Badcaps Legend
            • Dec 2009
            • 1267
            • Germany

            #25
            Re: WinXP Sp 4?

            Originally posted by ivtec
            I've been using my Sony Centrino Pentium M 1.5ghz 1g mem with Pro XP SP3 mostly streaming IPTV and it does a great job, also do browse the web and so far no issues,as long you turn off updates and only go to trusty sites you will be fine,i even travel with it to Europe and had no issues,if i do i just reinstall OPS from my recovery disks.
            No, your computer can be owned on internet connect.

            And I don't understand why you don't use "alternative operating systems" like Linux Mint. That works fine on my Pentium M notebook.
            But I've had problems with Zorin OS...

            Still, Linux Mint works fine, in the 32bit Cinamon version...


            I really do not understand why people want to continue using Windows XP and do not understand the security problems it has...

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            • Topcat
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              • Oct 2003
              • 16956
              • United States

              #26
              Re: WinXP Sp 4?

              Originally posted by Stefan Payne
              I really do not understand why people want to continue using Windows XP and do not understand the security problems it has...
              If the user isn't competent with security, then yes....it can be a security risk... If you know what you're doing, XP is still very usable, reliable, and secure.
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              • mockingbird
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                • Dec 2008
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                #27
                Re: WinXP Sp 4?

                Originally posted by topcat
                if the user isn't competent with security, then yes....it can be a security risk... If you know what you're doing, xp is still very usable, reliable, and secure.
                +1

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                • goodpsusearch
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 2850
                  • Greece

                  #28
                  Re: WinXP Sp 4?

                  Originally posted by SteveNielsen
                  ryanvm.net is totally useless, returns a single link to page not found. msfn.org can get you to the post SP3 updates if you specifically search for it, so it's basically a useless link by itself too, and certainly does not warrant the "FTW!" crap. You don't win anything and I repeat, it is NOT SP4!

                  With some (non-newbie) effort you can download and create your own slipstream with all post XP SP3 updates included with SP3 but it is NOT SP4 because SP4 does NOT exist and people should stop calling it that and stop posting useless links.
                  Dude does Micro$oft pay you? :speechless:

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                  • goodpsusearch
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 2850
                    • Greece

                    #29
                    Re: WinXP Sp 4?

                    Originally posted by diif
                    No. XP is insecure and outdated.
                    Either use it offline where updates don't matter or use a different operating system.
                    I use it everyday and haven't got anything. I install it on old Atom netbooks and Pentium M laptops for customers. And they all thank me, because anything else is too heavy for those machines.

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                    • goodpsusearch
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 2850
                      • Greece

                      #30
                      Re: WinXP Sp 4?

                      Originally posted by Stefan Payne

                      I really do not understand why people want to continue using Windows XP and do not understand the security problems it has...
                      I never had any of the problems you are talking about. And all the infected PCs that come to me for OS reinstall and disinfection have been infected while browsing by clicking on the wrong "DOWNLOAD" link in torrent or porn pages.

                      Less often they get infected from flash drivers.

                      None of them gets "owned" by hackers

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                      • ivtec
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 1967
                        • USA

                        #31
                        Re: WinXP Sp 4?

                        Originally posted by Stefan Payne
                        No, your computer can be owned on internet connect.

                        And I don't understand why you don't use "alternative operating systems" like Linux Mint. That works fine on my Pentium M notebook.
                        But I've had problems with Zorin OS...

                        Still, Linux Mint works fine, in the 32bit Cinamon version...


                        I really do not understand why people want to continue using Windows XP and do not understand the security problems it has...
                        Linux Mint is perfect crap compared to Win Xp on this machine that is non PAE
                        System,i tried it with forced non PAE with Olivia but it worked like crap.

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                        • stj
                          Great Sage 齊天大聖
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 31020
                          • Albion

                          #32
                          Re: WinXP Sp 4?

                          it would be crap, it's not meant for old cpu's

                          try Vector Linux instead.
                          http://www.vectorlinux.com/

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                          • RJARRRPCGP
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                            #33
                            Re: WinXP Sp 4?

                            Originally posted by Sparkey55
                            Who died and made you the dictator? Another Microshaft Windows 10 shill.
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                            • pfrcom
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                              • Jun 2006
                              • 1230
                              • Australia

                              #34
                              Re: WinXP Sp 4?

                              I've been using XP unSP4 v2 for a few months, and very happy with it

                              Thanks for the heads up about v3.1a, which installs just as smoothly as v2

                              FWIW, one of the things it installs is QFECHECK, which shows for v3.1a after a clean install :

                              Windows XP Hotfix Validation Report for \\LANPARTY-NF4

                              Report Date: 2/23/2016 2:48pm



                              Current Service Pack Level: Service Pack 3



                              Hotfixes Identified:

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                              • Sparkey55
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Jan 2010
                                • 1523
                                • USA

                                #35
                                Re: WinXP Sp 4?

                                Originally posted by pfrcom
                                I've been using XP unSP4 v2 for a few months, and very happy with it

                                Thanks for the heads up about v3.1a, which installs just as smoothly as v2

                                FWIW, one of the things it installs is QFECHECK, which shows for v3.1a after a clean install :
                                I now have a twitchy right index finger, oh my.

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                                • momaka
                                  master hoarder
                                  • May 2008
                                  • 12175
                                  • Bulgaria

                                  #36
                                  Re: WinXP Sp 4?

                                  Originally posted by Topcat
                                  If the user isn't competent with security, then yes....it can be a security risk... If you know what you're doing, XP is still very usable, reliable, and secure.
                                  I couldn't have said it any better, thanks.

                                  At this point, XP is only for XPerts

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                                  • Ascaris
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Nov 2015
                                    • 54
                                    • USA

                                    #37
                                    Re: WinXP Sp 4?

                                    The most meaningful thing you can do to secure XP is probably to do everything you can with a user account and use administrator accounts as little as you can.

                                    I've still got XP on my 2005 Compaq (HP) M2000z laptop, which I had upgraded to a Turion ML-40 CPU (2.2Ghz; 1.6 ML-34 was the original) many years ago. I also had swapped the stock Broadcom wireless card for an Atheros; at the time, I had a Super-G router and I wanted the laptop to be able to use Super-G without an external wireless NIC. I had to edit the BIOS to get it to accept the new wireless card... yeah, it's an HP all right.

                                    I put Win 10 on it just to see if it works (an Apple fanatic was going on and on about how his/her 2007 era Macbook worked with the latest version of OSX, and remarked, "I'd like to see a PC that old work with the newest Windows," so I tried it.)

                                    It worked and was stable, though it did feel a bit sluggish compared to XP (perhaps not surprisingly!). The M2000z only has 1GB of RAM, and part of that is dedicated to the integrated GPU, putting the total available below the 1GB minimum specified by MS. I might upgrade it just for the heck of it to its max of 2GB just to see how well it can run 7.

                                    The ATI Radeon 200M graphics don't have a Win 10 driver (though the generic MS driver performed a lot better than the old VgaSave driver did); some people reported having some luck installing the Vista driver in compatibility mode, but that was about when my interest in messing with it ran out, and I put XP back on (restored from a disk image). I've got the POSready hack in place, and it works nicely for an 11 year old laptop (with an 11 year old XP installation).

                                    How could I not have at least one working Win XP system? Blasphemy.

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