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    #21
    Re: hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

    I have been looking for BE443L when I have time but I have only found hints that it exists. (No data.)

    Can you provide a better picture of the logo?
    Maybe I can determine the manufacturer with that.

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      #22
      Re: hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

      hi PC BONEZ
      You don't have to look for BE443L but you have to look for 4407
      I have made a search and I have found that it is equal to the AP4407M sold by WWW.PARTMINER.COM
      Me however I wanted to know from some holder of the ZD6000, if changing the 4 ICs has resolved
      THANKS
      MARIO

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        #23
        Re: hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

        I was looking for 4407 too. All I could find was lists that include that number.

        I'm not sure how you determined that is the right part.
        There are a lot of similar parts and the specs aren't exactly the same between them.
        http://www.hkinventory.com/public/Of...t4=0&datecode=

        The logo may indeed be AP but I don't see an M after the number.
        I think AP4407 is the entire PN.

        AP and APEC are the same company for this part.
        Advanced Power Electronics Corporation (AP, A-POWER, APEC)
        Their site is slow enough it might be faster to walk to Taiwain to get the PDF file.
        I haven't been able to get it. Maybe you can.
        http://www.a-power.com.tw

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        Mann-Made Global Warming.
        - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

        -
        Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

        - Dr Seuss
        -
        You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
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          #24
          Re: hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

          Hope you don't mind the repost of a lager image marketta.
          For pc bonez



          I couldn't seem to find the logo

          http://www.dialelec.com/semiconductorlogos.html

          Chip doc has 3 pages and I use to have a site but no idea what happened to the link

          cheers
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            #25
            Re: hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

            did find this PDF HERE

            is that Anachip?

            From a post on this forum thread Here

            So seems 4407 is a common package Mosfet and I suppose if 2 are fried
            the question becomes why did they fry ?
            what other damage my have occurred and will replacing all 4 (to be safe) fix it?
            (4407 you learn something new everyday)

            (pinout matches PCB layout by the looks of it)


            Hope the above is of some help

            Cheers
            Last edited by starfury1; 03-20-2008, 09:12 PM.
            You step into the Road, and if you don't keep your feet, there is no knowing where you may be swept off to." Bilbo Baggins ...

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              #26
              Re: hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

              See that's the problem.
              4407 parses to a whole bunch of different parts.
              In one search I did AP4407M came up with a MOSFET Controller 8-pin chip. (All I could get, there was no data sheet or links.) That makes sense but as his chips don't have an "M" on the end it may not be for the right current, voltage, or switching frequency.

              marketta,
              Something else in the circuit is probably bad to make those fail in that way.
              Likely bad MOSFETs but could be many other things. (Or more than one thing.)

              Handy logo site Starfury!
              I used to know a huge one but it went *poof* about 3 years ago.

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              - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

              -
              Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

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              -
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                #27
                Re: hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

                Finally got some data sheets.
                Printed logo in the sheets is similar but not exact.
                Probably the same company,, not 100% confidence.

                Showed another AP part with 4407 to show how much difference one letter can make in a PN.
                Attached Files
                Mann-Made Global Warming.
                - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

                -
                Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

                - Dr Seuss
                -
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                  #28
                  Re: hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

                  Had another but PDF files larger than 195.3k won't upload here.
                  Mann-Made Global Warming.
                  - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

                  -
                  Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

                  - Dr Seuss
                  -
                  You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                  -

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                    #29
                    Re: hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

                    thanks to all for the answers and the suggestions
                    I have found a supplier in Italy
                    I now buy them him they are the AF4407
                    MARKETTA

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                      #30
                      Re: hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

                      Handy logo site Starfury!
                      I used to know a huge one but it went *poof* about 3 years ago.
                      I was sure a bigger one existed too so that maybe the one I was thinking of but couldn't find. (haven't been logo hunting in awhile)

                      without knowing the exact pint out for circuit the photos you posted I think the "M" matches..pin out wise...they are in parallel ? pairs possibly

                      anyway for ref from PDF I found and the one Bonez posted.

                      the Anachip pdf snip



                      From the M pdf Bonez posted



                      overlay




                      that if I got it all right here

                      keep us posted on how you go...hope it works too.

                      Cheers
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                      You step into the Road, and if you don't keep your feet, there is no knowing where you may be swept off to." Bilbo Baggins ...

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                        #31
                        Re: hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

                        There is another one that is more complex, I think two transistors with seperate drives all in the SOIC 4 pin package.

                        Dell D600

                        Well, in my case FDS36B is blown in few cycles if I kept trying (power supply kept shutting off instant the I press power button. But with battery all you do is just once and it's blown. I could not find the short, lowest ohms I can get is about 30 ohm far downsteam and is on seperate choppers but not where this IC is which is with CPU installed and it is not shorted.

                        This IC that get killed is for the 2.5 mH inductor coil with 4 copper wires wround in a buck step-down voltage regulator.

                        Can a bad inductor kill a chopper instantly?

                        Cheers, Wizard

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                          #32
                          Re: hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

                          kindly someone knows What The Site is where I can find the manual service of the ZD8000
                          THANKS FRIENDS
                          MARIO

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                            #33
                            Re: hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

                            does someone kindly know Which The Site is where I can find the manual service of the ZD8000 Con The Relative SCHEMATIC DIAGRAM And PARTS LIST?
                            THANKS FRIENDS
                            MARIO

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                              #34
                              Re: hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

                              http://pdftown.com/HP-Pavilion-ZD800...ce-Manual.html
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                                #35
                                Re: hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

                                Originally posted by Wizard
                                There is another one that is more complex, I think two transistors with seperate drives all in the SOIC 4 pin package.

                                Dell D600

                                Well, in my case FDS36B is blown in few cycles if I kept trying (power supply kept shutting off instant the I press power button. But with battery all you do is just once and it's blown. I could not find the short, lowest ohms I can get is about 30 ohm far downsteam and is on seperate choppers but not where this IC is which is with CPU installed and it is not shorted.

                                This IC that get killed is for the 2.5 mH inductor coil with 4 copper wires wround in a buck step-down voltage regulator.

                                Can a bad inductor kill a chopper instantly?

                                Cheers, Wizard
                                follow the gate lead to the driver chip.
                                it likely got killed in the original event.
                                its now locking on the new mosfet and killing it.

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                                  #36
                                  Re: hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

                                  @ willawake
                                  I thank you
                                  but on your manual service doesn't exist electric scheme and any part list of the electronic components.
                                  @ kc8adu
                                  explained better before I replace the Mosfets 4407
                                  thanks to all of my friends
                                  mario

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                                    #37
                                    Re: hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

                                    Originally posted by marketta
                                    but on your manual service doesn't exist electric scheme and any part list of the electronic components
                                    i have never seen this for any laptop
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                                      #38
                                      Re: hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

                                      however from some part it has to be this manual service
                                      without doubt HP surely but it seems both top secret
                                      thanks

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                                        #39
                                        Re: hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

                                        which part?
                                        show a pic
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                                          #40
                                          Re: hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

                                          anybody part I want the electric scheme and the list parts that it is found on the manual service HP

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