hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

[marketta]

hi to everybody
has you/he/she ever happened and then resolved the problem of this Portable hp zd 8000 that it doesn't load the battery and if I raise the battery and alone attack the feeder the portable one it doesn't ignite and if I climb on then the battery the battery he heats and it doesn't load?
is it a problem of some chips on the mother card?
someone has told me that it is the power supply that is not good it is 130watt-19volt-7,1amp.
I have to use 180watt-19volt-9,5amp instead.
if someone has resolved you/he/she can tell me as.
You can help me please it is a very beautiful portable.
Thanks to all for the answers
Mario

[davmax]

Re: hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

has you/he/she ever happened and then resolved the problem of this Portable hp zd 8000 that it doesn't load the battery and if I raise the battery and alone attack the feeder the portable one it doesn't ignite and if I climb on then the battery the battery he heats and it doesn't load?
is it a problem of some chips on the mother card?

Please describe problem better. Do have a problem with charging the battery? Do you have a problem with the computer switching ON?

[starfury1]

Re: hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

I gather English is not your first language, thats ok
we will try as best to work with you on solving your problem

A question,
Are these the original laptop battery and power supply?
(the ones that came with it from new)

from what I gather you are trying to "charge" the Battery but its not taking the "charge" =(load?)

while in laptop?

Seems this is happening even if you try to "charge" the battery separately (by its self)
It gets hot (heat) but no (load) "charge"

(ignite) =turn on?
do you mean the laptop will not "turn on" with "PSU " plugged in as well?

from what I understand there are a few power supplies for this laptop model(s), you were told you possibly need the bigger psu (power supply)
180W PSU not 130W. PSU
(psu, power supply=same thing)

I think you suspect the laptop is not working?

you have 3 possible trouble ares

1 Battery
2 Power supply
3 Laptop (its self)

From what you say I am assuming power supply can "charge"(load) the battery directly (without the laptop being used)
?

(I don't know about this cause I don't see many lap tops these days to know if they make them that way...I just don't have a clue really)

You need to check the power supply is OK and the Battery is OK first
(have you done this ?)

I am suspecting the power supply is not working (faulty)
from what I think you are telling us.

laptop power supplies are liable to fail due to their construction, heat and possible cheap caps used.

Batteries can fail also
(fail, faulty, break = not work)

you need to rule these out as possibly problem first by checking them
(or replacing them with known working units)

if it is the laptop its self, as the cause of the problem
I have no idea on whats in them or how you might go about fixing it.

one last thing

Connectors & leads
can and do go faulty (break...bad contacts etc) so check these as well.

hope you can understand what I have said (posted above) and hope it helps you.

Cheers

Links above for photos and information only OK

[kc8adu]

Re: hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

number 1 failure is busted dc jack on hpq laptops.
causes totally dead no lights.
you can try to use a battery from a friends unit or charge your battery in another unit.
btw to replace the dc jack you must pull the motherboard.
i do several a week here.

[marketta]

Re: hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

hi and thanks for the answer
1) the notebook ignites only with the battery when it is loaded
2) the notebook doesn't turn on with its power supply but with disconnected battery
3) when it is everything connected battery + power supply the battery is not reloaded and the battery heats.
4) I have opened the feeder and I have seen the support in plastics of the the transformer for the impulses burnt cause an elevated temperature of the transformer was melted.
The power supply is 19volt-130watt-7,1amp
A friend has recommended me to replace with another power supply with greater poptenza 180watt-9,5amp.
5) I have measured the tension to the exit of the connector and I have read 19volt regular but I think that an anomalous absorption causes this tension goes to limitation.
I now ask to you if the problem is the power supply
thanks

[kikkoman]

Re: hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

sounds like the power supply has gone bad.
(still, the DC connector could be broken, too.)
was it the original power supply that came with the notebook?

puoi postare qualche immagine dell' interno dell' alimentatore?

[zandrax]

Re: hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

According to marketta, his notebook won't start without battery, the charge led won't light but the battery heats and the psu plastic case is partly melt near main transformer.
IMHO there are three options:
- the mainboard connector is damaged or desoldered as kc8 points out;
- the psu is broken, as kikkoman suggests;
- the power cable is damaged at one or both extremities, preventing the psu from powering the pc or [even worse] getting fake - intermittent contact: this is due to bad tangling on the psu. I had three notebook power brick with this trouble, and I had to buy three new psu after all three stopped working and one of them even shorted itself.

I'll translate in Italian:

@ Marketta: riassumendo il portatile funziona solo con la batteria inserita, l'alimentatore non la carica ma la riscalda e i supporti del trasformatore dell'alimentatore sono fusi.
Ci sono tre possibilita':
- il connettore di alimentazione sulla scheda madre e' rotto o dissaldato, come sostiene kc8adu: controlla se si muove rispetto alla scheda;
- l'ali e' andato, come dice kikkoman;
- il cavo e' daneggiato ad una o a entrambe le estremita', bloccando l'alimentazione o, peggio, causando dei falsi contatti: capita se attorcigli male il cavo sull'alimentatore. Ho buttato tre alimentatori da portatile per queto problema: tutti funzionavano solo se il cavo era in una certa posizione, poi si sono guastati definitivamente; il terzo ha fatto pure corto.

Se posti le foto possiamo capire meglio cosa e' successo.

Zandrax

[marketta]

Re: hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

I send you inside photo of the power supply
and I inform you that on the pins 2(+) and 3 (-) there are regularly 19volt.
Do you have to explain me, not having an electric scheme, the pins 1-4-5 to thing serve?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/19922995@N07/2316001067/

[marketta]

Re: hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

excuse Kikkoman
I think of me that it was the power supply original datum in the wrapping HP
I am not sure because I have purchased him used on Ebay

[zandrax]

Re: hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

I send you inside photo of the power supply
and I inform you that on the pins 2(+) and 3 (-) there are regularly 19volt.
Do you have to explain me, not having an electric scheme, the pins 1-4-5 to thing serve?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/19922995@N07/2316001067/

Notebooks usually requires only a voltage (e.g. 19 v) but not ground: pins 1, 4 and 5 are unused.

excuse Kikkoman
I think of me that it was the power supply original datum in the wrapping HP
I am not sure because I have purchased him used on Ebay

Post a photo about psu's label.

Italian:
I pin 1,4 e 5 sono probabilmente inutilizzati: i portatili non richiedono la terra e derivano le tensioni dall'unica fornita dall'alimentatore.
Per togliere i dubbi sull'originalita' o meno dell'alimentatore posta una foto dell'etichetta.

Zandrax

[PCBONEZ]

Re: hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

Judging by this 6.3 amps or more is enough.

http://www.batterypowerplus.com/stor...+Laptop&page=1

[marketta]

Re: hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

thanks
but the tide disbursed by the power supply is to the limit and that required by the zd8008ea when the vora with great quantity of data as the graphics or you play the feeder and the battery they strive a po and for this the hard battery very little.
What you/they write the sellers is for selling and it doesn't correspond to truth
hi
mario

[marketta]

Re: hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

thanks
but the tide disbursed by the power supply is to the limit and that required by the zd8008ea when he/she works with great quantity of data as the graphics or you play the feeder and the battery they strive a lot and for this the hard battery very little.
What you/they write the sellers is for selling and it doesn't correspond to truth
hi
mario

[marketta]

Re: hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

here is the photo of the label with the data of the power supply for the zd8008ea

http://www.flickr.com/photos/19922995@N07/?saved=1

[PCBONEZ]

Re: hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

The manual for your laptop states 7.1 to 9.5 amps.
It also states that the requirement for your laptop is printed on the laptop.
-- on the laptop...

Assuming it says 7.1 amps....
Exceeding 7.1 won't hurt anything but would be of no benefit.
The minimum amps is based on the maximum that the electronics parts can tolerate and no software or program is going to change that.

I hope this is understandable to you in English....
.

.

[marketta]

Re: hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

ok PCBONEZ you have been comprehensible
I am me that I apologize me since I use a translator italian /English
however I replace the power supply because as you will see from the photos the transformer of impulses you/he/she is heated and I think that the switching is working that is out frequency to lower frequency and then under I load the power supply it goes to limitation.
If I succeed in finding an electric scheme I could succeed in mending him/it in attended that I/you/he/she arrive to me that new.
If someone sends me the scheme of the power supply the model it is that as in photo HP 375117-002

[PCBONEZ]

Re: hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

You do not need to apologize.
I am sometimes unsure if I will be understood.

Schematics (scheme) for those are rarely published.
You will probably have to draw your own.

[zandrax]

Re: hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

@marketta: I don't think the transformer switching frequency is responsible for all your troubles: it's fixed, it won't change. Simply something is broken and you can investigate the cause or buy another psu (I've seen replacements on ebay).
A tips: your notebook's cpu is a Pentium 4 which draws a lot of current. Avoid heavy workloads when it's battery powered because this won't last long and deep and fast discharge cycles make sure it won't even last for long.

Italian:
Dubito che la frequenza di switching del trasformatore causi tutti questi problemi perche' e' fissa. Piu' semplicemente c'e' qualcosa di rotto, quindi puoi cercare la causa o comrare un alimentatore nuovo (es su ebay).
Nota: il processore del portatile e' un Pentium 4 che assorbe parecchia corrente, quindi evita compiti impegnativi quando e' alimentato a batteria perche' questa non dura ne' in termini di autonomia ne' come durata nel tempo (gli scaricamenti veloci e profondi ne abbreviano la vita).

Zandrax

[marketta]

Re: hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

Hi Friends of the forum
for the more experts
I have opened the noteboock and I have found this as from attached photo
Who and what this breakup of the two ICs has provoked 4407-BE443L
Here the why it didn't load the battery and it didn't ignite without the battery
Who knows me to resolve the problem and to tell me thing they serve the four ICs?
THANKS Á. TUTTI
Mario
N.B. Perhaps if he resolves we let to many holders of this noteboock resolve

http://www.flickr.com/photos/19922995@N07/?saved=1

[marketta]

Re: hp pavilion zd 8008ea no charge

other photo motherboard zd 8000

http://www.flickr.com/photos/19922995@N07/2346501864/