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  • stevo1210
    Badcaps Legend
    • Oct 2006
    • 4156
    • Australia

    #1

    Freezing PS/2 Input Devices

    Hello Everyone,

    I recently got a Gigabyte GA-8iPE1000-G motherboard but the PS/2 keyboard and mouse is stuffing up.

    The mouse and keyboard work fine in BIOS and DSL Linux (Live CD), but if I use it under Windows, I have a problem.

    If I was to press any keys on the keyboard under Windows, the mouse will freeze completely or even the PC will freeze at times.

    Under Linux, I can type a word document etc. and the PC wont freeze. Under BIOS, I can reconfigure the BIOS settings with no problems.... but it is only Windows that is stuffing up.

    I'm guessing it is a software problem maybe?? Where do I start looking??

    Thanks.
    Don't find love, let love find you. That's why its called falling in love, because you don't force yourself to fall, you just fall. - Anonymous
  • kc8adu
    Super Moderator
    • Nov 2003
    • 8829
    • U.S.A!

    #2
    Re: Freezing PS/2 Input Devices

    get the newest bios first.
    if it doesnt freeze under linux its a compatibility issue with windows or your windows load is corrupt.
    maybe you loaded the wrong driver for mouse/kb?
    logitech comes to mind as being a troublemaker.

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    • stevo1210
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      • Oct 2006
      • 4156
      • Australia

      #3
      Re: Freezing PS/2 Input Devices and a faulty audio port

      Thanks kc8adu,

      I solved the problem by reformatting my hard drive.... I probably had some driver errors somewhere. Now I have to get a new sound card since the internal sound connector is not working properly (I can only hear sound on the left and I've tried everything).... Anyone got good recommendations to a good sound card??.... At the moment I'm thinking of getting the Creative Sound Blaster 5.1 PCI.

      Thanks.
      Don't find love, let love find you. That's why its called falling in love, because you don't force yourself to fall, you just fall. - Anonymous

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      • shadow
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        • Feb 2007
        • 732
        • Australia

        #4
        Re: Freezing PS/2 Input Devices and a faulty audio port

        Originally posted by stevo1210
        Thanks kc8adu,

        I solved the problem by reformatting my hard drive.... I probably had some driver errors somewhere. Now I have to get a new sound card since the internal sound connector is not working properly (I can only hear sound on the left and I've tried everything).... Anyone got good recommendations to a good sound card??.... At the moment I'm thinking of getting the Creative Sound Blaster 5.1 PCI.

        Thanks.
        Depends really on what you use the sound card for. If it is just some general music, games, movies etc. No real special requirements. The Creative Sound Blaster 5.1 PCI will do great!

        However if you need a sound card with exceptionally accurate sound reproduction, then I would look for something else.

        You have to remember that nearly all dedicated sound cards kick on-board sound cards ass!

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        • stevo1210
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          • Oct 2006
          • 4156
          • Australia

          #5
          Re: Freezing PS/2 Input Devices

          I was looking around on the internet today for the Creative sound cards and theres one called the Audigy Value edition.... it costs $60AUD compared to $35AUD for the Soundblaster Live 5.1.

          I looked through the specifications of the Audigy card and it has a lot of software and something called EAX HD instead of EAX on the Soundblaster Live 5.1.... Does the "HD" part make a big difference??

          I want to use this PC as a media centre and I want to find something that is good quality. I tried a card based on the C-Media CMI8338 chipset and the sound output wasn't too good.... not to mention the driver conflicts with the onboard LAN.

          I know that the Audigy card is probably better because it costs more but will I even notice the difference? At the moment i'm using a set of Creative SBS 370 2.1 Channel speakers and they sound pretty good using just the normal integrated sound on my other PC.

          Thanks.
          Don't find love, let love find you. That's why its called falling in love, because you don't force yourself to fall, you just fall. - Anonymous

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          • shadow
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Feb 2007
            • 732
            • Australia

            #6
            Re: Freezing PS/2 Input Devices

            Originally posted by stevo1210
            I was looking around on the internet today for the Creative sound cards and theres one called the Audigy Value edition.... it costs $60AUD compared to $35AUD for the Soundblaster Live 5.1.

            I looked through the specifications of the Audigy card and it has a lot of software and something called EAX HD instead of EAX on the Soundblaster Live 5.1.... Does the "HD" part make a big difference??

            I want to use this PC as a media centre and I want to find something that is good quality. I tried a card based on the C-Media CMI8338 chipset and the sound output wasn't too good.... not to mention the driver conflicts with the onboard LAN.

            I know that the Audigy card is probably better because it costs more but will I even notice the difference? At the moment i'm using a set of Creative SBS 370 2.1 Channel speakers and they sound pretty good using just the normal integrated sound on my other PC.

            Thanks.
            Hmm...I guess it depends on you. When I looked at the specifications, the Audigy is the superior card. It supports 7.1 surround sound, while the Sound Blaster 5.1 supports 5.1 surround sound. The Audigy pumps out sound with a 24-bit sample rate. However just about all my music is encoded with 16 bits (mainly CDs) so that this feature is very negligible to me. Having said that DVD audio is usually encoded with 24 bits. Most importantly I believe the Audigy recreates sound more accurately (could not find sound specs for the Sound Blaster 5.1).

            That said, I would only invest in the Audigy if I needed/wanted 7.1 surround sound or if sound reproduction accuracy is more important than cost. All the other features seem rather gimmicky. This EAX thing that Creative are advertising seems to be some sort of technology used in games to make games 'sound better'. I would not have a clue whether it does or does not. Or whether it is any good. To me it sounds like a gimmick. The software that comes with the cards seems to be just proprietary Creative software like:

            * Creative MediaSource Go!
            * Creative MediaSource Go! Launcher
            * Creative MediaSource Player/Organizer
            * Creative Device Control
            * Creative Surround Mixer
            * Creative EAX Console
            * Creative WaveStudio
            * Creative Speaker Settings
            * Creative Graphic Equalizer
            * Creative Diagnostics
            * Creative Smart Recorder

            For me at least, all this software is a waste as I would not use it. However for your media centre you may have a use for them.

            I personally use the inbuilt sound card on my motherboard since I only use my computer for general usage. I am no audiophile and I am not using it for any sort of media centre. Both of those sound cards should rip on any inbuilt cards (or normal cards) that are based on Realtek and C-Media chipsets (most motherboards use one of these two chipsets). Happy sound card hunting!

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            • Fizzycapola
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Oct 2006
              • 423

              #7
              Re: Freezing PS/2 Input Devices

              I have a freezing type problem on my laptop when using a Usb-< ps2 mouse & ps2 keyboard adaptor. Just freezes input for a second or so occasionaly, not related to load.
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              • Fizzycapola
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Oct 2006
                • 423

                #8
                Re: Freezing PS/2 Input Devices

                Plain old Audigy and Soundblaster 5.1 are ancient (as old as I can remember), I'm surprised theres any shops that sell them.

                Since them they have been supersceeded by: Audigy 2, Audigy 2 ZS, Audigy 4 and
                right uptodate is Xi-Fi range of cards.

                http://www.overclockers.co.uk/produc...d=701&catid=11

                As long as you install the driver only, from the driver CD, big mistake to install any software, they're pretty bad programmers, I still use the 1st driver they ever made for my card, for some reason all the updated drivers are slower and slower and slower and with more bugs.
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                • stevo1210
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                  • Oct 2006
                  • 4156
                  • Australia

                  #9
                  Re: Freezing PS/2 Input Devices

                  Just an update to buying the sound card. After using an ancient Yamaha YMF-740 PCI sound card for a while, I finally got a Creative Soundblaster Live! 5.1.
                  The sound with this new sound card is terrific.
                  Don't find love, let love find you. That's why its called falling in love, because you don't force yourself to fall, you just fall. - Anonymous

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                  • bgavin
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                    • Jan 2007
                    • 1355

                    #10
                    Re: Freezing PS/2 Input Devices and a faulty audio port

                    Originally posted by stevo1210
                    I solved the problem by reformatting my hard drive....
                    That is always a good start to solving Windows problems.

                    I use an unattended installation CD that I built for my needs. It installs no junk of any kind, and does a large number of registry tweaks that I otherwise have to do by hand. (Event Log size, Error Reporting, etc, etc)

                    There are registry settings to set if you slipstream SP2 into your C:\I386 directory. If SFC /SCANNOW pukes, your registry settings are wrong.

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                    • stevo1210
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 4156
                      • Australia

                      #11
                      Re: Freezing PS/2 Input Devices and a faulty audio port

                      Originally posted by bgavin
                      That is always a good start to solving Windows problems.

                      I use an unattended installation CD that I built for my needs. It installs no junk of any kind, and does a large number of registry tweaks that I otherwise have to do by hand. (Event Log size, Error Reporting, etc, etc)

                      There are registry settings to set if you slipstream SP2 into your C:\I386 directory. If SFC /SCANNOW pukes, your registry settings are wrong.
                      I have a Windows XP disc that has been slipstreamed with SP2 sitting around here somewhere....
                      Don't find love, let love find you. That's why its called falling in love, because you don't force yourself to fall, you just fall. - Anonymous

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                      • pentium
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                        • Mar 2006
                        • 2778
                        • Canada

                        #12
                        Re: Freezing PS/2 Input Devices

                        The last time I had a problem like this was when I accidentally assigned a Logitech bus mouse card to a conflicting IRQ.
                        The system was fine but as soon as you moved the mouse the system stopped dead in it's tracks.
                        Find Nedry!


                        Check the Vending machines!!

                        <----Computer says I need more beer.

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                        • bgavin
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                          • Jan 2007
                          • 1355

                          #13
                          Re: Freezing PS/2 Input Devices

                          I've seen that very bug before. Typical Logitech driver bullshit.

                          It would probably be highly amusing to read the driver source code and/or take a look at the college kiddies they have writing that code. Logitech code has been so buggy, so long, it is laughable.

                          I wouldn't own any mouse that requires drivers. If it works as a PS/2 or USB mouse, great.

                          If proprietary drivers are required...

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                          • stevo1210
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                            • Oct 2006
                            • 4156
                            • Australia

                            #14
                            Re: Freezing PS/2 Input Devices

                            I had problems (and still do) with Logitech mice.... most were driver issues half the time....

                            I have issues just like pentium. My PC would freeze as soon as I move the mouse. In the end, I scrapped that mouse and bought generic "Made in China" one and it works fine. I cannot believe a $40 Logitech mouse was worse than a generic one using Windows drivers....
                            Don't find love, let love find you. That's why its called falling in love, because you don't force yourself to fall, you just fall. - Anonymous

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                            • gonzo0815
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                              • Feb 2006
                              • 1600

                              #15
                              Re: Freezing PS/2 Input Devices

                              I own a lot of cheap and some of the better Logitech mice, but to be honest, i have not installed any of their crappy software.
                              The last time i tried it, i was not able to play fast games, the purpose for i bought the Logitech.

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                              • pentium
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                                • Mar 2006
                                • 2778
                                • Canada

                                #16
                                Re: Freezing PS/2 Input Devices

                                I don't install their software either. The only exception is when the software is needed to control something like save macros for my WingMan.

                                I still think formatting and starting over was a little harsh.
                                Find Nedry!


                                Check the Vending machines!!

                                <----Computer says I need more beer.

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                                • bgavin
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                                  • Jan 2007
                                  • 1355

                                  #17
                                  Re: Freezing PS/2 Input Devices

                                  I've got a client's Gateway laptop that freezes up solid when idling in CMOS setup. It is very random, and occurs just enough to piss you off. It also locks up Windows, but we all expect that anyway.

                                  I'm not particularly inclined at all to open it up and check for capacitor problems. The client is broke (read: pro bono), so I told them to just run it until it dies.

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                                  • WNG
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                                    • Sep 2006
                                    • 354

                                    #18
                                    Re: Freezing PS/2 Input Devices

                                    As for my wireless Logitech mouse, I have found it won't work optimally without loading its own drivers. The movement isn't smooth and precise with the default driver in Windows.
                                    “We the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful.
                                    We have done so much, with so little, for so long, we are now qualified to do anything, with nothing.”

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                                    • stevo1210
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                                      • Oct 2006
                                      • 4156
                                      • Australia

                                      #19
                                      Re: Freezing PS/2 Input Devices

                                      Originally posted by WNG
                                      As for my wireless Logitech mouse, I have found it won't work optimally without loading its own drivers. The movement isn't smooth and precise with the default driver in Windows.
                                      I agree. When I use a Logitech wireless mouse, it feels kinda slow and freezy without the Logitech drivers installed.
                                      Don't find love, let love find you. That's why its called falling in love, because you don't force yourself to fall, you just fall. - Anonymous

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                                      • Fizzycapola
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                                        • Oct 2006
                                        • 423

                                        #20
                                        Re: Freezing PS/2 Input Devices

                                        Originally posted by stevo1210
                                        I cannot believe a $40 Logitech mouse was worse than a generic one using Windows drivers....
                                        Yeah it sucks. When I was a boy, you bought the best peripherals that cost the most money and thats exactly what you got.

                                        Now all the companies what maximum profit (by all selling the same product under different guises pretty much as if it's clever marketing to just commit robbery like this, I remember seeing a premium respected brand selling what was formerly unwanted chinese junk priced 20p $0.40c rebranded goods for £14 once not so long ago. They did a good cover up too, the old chinese seller seemed to vanish from existence.) minimum effort, you have to do a thesis on each possible purchase with a blackboard and alot of squiggling it's rediculous, even then you need to do alot of spread betting it seems or be in some loop where problems just don't happen for you.

                                        If the 'world order' want people occupied, just remove stupid pointless mobile phones, cheap cars and pointless aeroplanes (ground shipping takes alot longer and gives the army something to do / tourists like the sea) and make women only have babies after saving it up for them for years at a time or after the millionth love making session.

                                        The world has to get big again one day. I'm fed up with seeing people from the other sides of the world just popping over for their favourite brand of biscuit from the local cheap goods shop and then back home.

                                        I think I worked out it's cheaper to buy biscuits from Australia/Japan/Korea than to get a taxi drive me to the north of England for some biscuits. According to one special offer.
                                        Last edited by Fizzycapola; 08-31-2007, 06:41 AM.
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