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  • goodpsusearch
    Badcaps Legend
    • Oct 2009
    • 2848
    • Greece

    #1

    Strange SDRAM DIMM

    What exactly is this?

    Has anyone seen something like this before?
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  • brethin
    Badcaps Legend
    • Dec 2008
    • 1907
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Strange SDRAM DIMM

    Yep seen them before. Its just a 16 chip stick with all the chips on one side vrs 8 chips on each side.

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    • goodpsusearch
      Badcaps Legend
      • Oct 2009
      • 2848
      • Greece

      #3
      Re: Strange SDRAM DIMM

      Originally posted by brethin
      Yep seen them before. Its just a 16 chip stick with all the chips on one side vrs 8 chips on each side.
      It has chips on the other side too!

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      • mariushm
        Badcaps Legend
        • May 2011
        • 3799

        #4
        Re: Strange SDRAM DIMM

        Since it has 2 holes on the pin line, it's SDRAM. It has 2 x 8 chips so it's not ECC, it's regular sdram.
        Since the chips are 10 ns rated, it's probably at some low frequency.. 133 Mhz, 128 or 256 MB SDRAM.

        ps. double the size if it has on both sides... but they could have resorted to just using low capacity chips to save money.

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        • Old Thrashbarg
          Member
          • Jan 2010
          • 20

          #5
          Re: Strange SDRAM DIMM

          Since the chips are 10 ns rated, it's probably at some low frequency.. 133 Mhz, 128 or 256 MB SDRAM.
          10ns is PC66 or PC100. And that's actually a 64MB stick... those are the old 4Mx4 chips that were used on the very early SDRAM DIMMS.

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          • mariushm
            Badcaps Legend
            • May 2011
            • 3799

            #6
            Re: Strange SDRAM DIMM

            Yes, you're right. I stand corrected.

            I remember now I had memory modules with 7ns chips at 133 Mhz on my first computer, an AMD K6-2 333 Mhz. So the 10ns should be slower.



            The chip above is hy57v164010b ... so it's 64 MB @ 100 mhz.

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            • goodpsusearch
              Badcaps Legend
              • Oct 2009
              • 2848
              • Greece

              #7
              Re: Strange SDRAM DIMM

              It came out from an old Pentium2 PC.

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              • c_hegge
                Badcaps Legend
                • Sep 2009
                • 5219
                • Australia

                #8
                Re: Strange SDRAM DIMM

                No, it came from a car. A Hyundai to be exact
                I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

                No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

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                • Uranium-235
                  Comrade Glimmer
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 5042
                  • US

                  #9
                  Re: Strange SDRAM DIMM

                  I've seen such things before with registered server memory. Infact I have a double height reg/ecc PC-133 stick with all BGA chips. might post a pic later, but from what i've seen double heights like that are usually server ram, I never even saw old P2's with double height
                  Cap Datasheet Depot: http://www.paullinebarger.net/DS/
                  ^If you have datasheets not listed PM me

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                  • goodpsusearch
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 2848
                    • Greece

                    #10
                    Re: Strange SDRAM DIMM

                    I tested the DIMM with Intel 440BX board and it didn't work.

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                    • PCBONEZ
                      Grumpy Old Fart
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 10661
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Strange SDRAM DIMM

                      I used to have some like that.
                      The only reason they are uncommon is because back in the day modules like that cost in the 100's of dollars.
                      .
                      I've seen similarly 'stacked' modules in 30-pin and 72-pin RAM.
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                      Last edited by PCBONEZ; 11-06-2011, 10:07 AM.
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                      • dood
                        Deputy dood
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 2462
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Strange SDRAM DIMM

                        I've also seen SDRAM with two chips on top of each other. At the time, there was no cheaper way to make high-capacity memory modules.
                        Ludicrous gibs!

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                        • shovenose
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                          • Aug 2010
                          • 6575
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                          #13
                          Re: Strange SDRAM DIMM

                          Originally posted by dood
                          I've also seen SDRAM with two chips on top of each other. At the time, there was no cheaper way to make high-capacity memory modules.
                          Whoa! That's really cool!

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                          • mariushm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • May 2011
                            • 3799

                            #14
                            Re: Strange SDRAM DIMM

                            ram wasn't always so complex though.

                            here's something i still have in my desk... so simple times back then yet so expensive....
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                            • dood
                              Deputy dood
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 2462
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: Strange SDRAM DIMM

                              Originally posted by shovenose
                              Whoa! That's really cool!
                              Yep, like this - http://www.ebay.com/itm/M37S64A-15-O...-/370255160561

                              But with the newer memory chips.
                              Ludicrous gibs!

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                              • Uranium-235
                                Comrade Glimmer
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 5042
                                • US

                                #16
                                Re: Strange SDRAM DIMM

                                Originally posted by Uranium-235
                                I've seen such things before with registered server memory. Infact I have a double height reg/ecc PC-133 stick with all BGA chips. might post a pic later, but from what i've seen double heights like that are usually server ram, I never even saw old P2's with double height
                                as I implied, its probably registered, and will not work on a 440BX
                                Cap Datasheet Depot: http://www.paullinebarger.net/DS/
                                ^If you have datasheets not listed PM me

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                                • PCBONEZ
                                  Grumpy Old Fart
                                  • Aug 2005
                                  • 10661
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: Strange SDRAM DIMM

                                  It's not registered.
                                  Would need one or two more IC's [which would contain the registers].
                                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Registered_RAM

                                  Some 440BX do take registered.
                                  Look up Intel N440BX.
                                  It takes either-or.

                                  I've seen 30-pin modules with 36 chips to a module.
                                  - And they weren't piggy-backed.
                                  Very tall for a RAM module.

                                  RAM like in the OP wasn't really that unusual back in the day but it was expensive so lower production.
                                  They either piggy-backed or made them tall to get more RAM on the stick.

                                  If you want to see something actually rare look up SIPP RAM module.
                                  RAM modules with round pins. I once had a PC that used them.
                                  Bugger to find those!!! [Even back then.]
                                  [edit] Found pic.
                                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIPP_memory
                                  .
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                                  Last edited by PCBONEZ; 11-08-2011, 11:26 PM.
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                                  • PCBONEZ
                                    Grumpy Old Fart
                                    • Aug 2005
                                    • 10661
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: Strange SDRAM DIMM

                                    You can get a lot about what RAM is by where the keys are.
                                    .
                                    This is the OP's RAM with they 'codes' overlaid.
                                    .
                                    It's run of the mill 3.3v Unbuffered SDRAM.
                                    .
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                                    -
                                    Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

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                                    -
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                                    • PCBONEZ
                                      Grumpy Old Fart
                                      • Aug 2005
                                      • 10661
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: Strange SDRAM DIMM

                                      Better pic from an old mobo manual...
                                      .
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                                      - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

                                      -
                                      Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

                                      - Dr Seuss
                                      -
                                      You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                                      -

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                                      • Uranium-235
                                        Comrade Glimmer
                                        • Aug 2007
                                        • 5042
                                        • US

                                        #20
                                        Re: Strange SDRAM DIMM

                                        Originally posted by PCBONEZ
                                        It's not registered.
                                        you might be wrong. i've seen reg sticks with two register chips on one side, so the reg chips might be on the other side
                                        Cap Datasheet Depot: http://www.paullinebarger.net/DS/
                                        ^If you have datasheets not listed PM me

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