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    Choosing better replacement caps for display

    I have a fade-to-black monitor with clearly failed radial-lead electrolytic capacitors (bulged tops/bottoms, leaking electrolyte on the caps themselves) that I'm replacing. The capacitors in question are all 470/1000uf caps rated at 10/25V, 105C; packaging is about 10mm diameter, 16mm height, and I think 5mm lead separation. They're all manufactured by Elite (I know... I'm replacing the ones that look fine, too). I have a solid if rusty soldering background, and the basic tools for board rework, but I'm fuzzy on electrolytic capacitor details.

    (1) Is there an issue with me going to higher voltage ratings on most/all of the caps - for example, getting replacement caps all rated at 50V?

    (2) Are there other specs I need to worry about? .

    (3) From the Good Caps thread, I'm under the impression that Nichicon/Nippon/Chemicon/Rubycon/Panasonic are probably the most generally reliable brands for electrolytic capacitors. True?

    (4) Just for kicks, is there any benefit to switching to another type of capacitor?

    #2
    Re: Choosing better replacement caps for display

    Is there an existing post for the monitor make/model. I would just use panasonic FR FM or FC in that order ( Not all sizes available in all series.) from a good source - digikey? not ebay unless you are absolutely sure about the seller.

    Depending on which monitor there may be known problem caps on the main or inverter.

    Re 4 you might have difficult fixing other caps - single sided/ multilevel board?
    Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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      #3
      Re: Choosing better replacement caps for display

      Thanks, selldoor - I didn't even think about the fact that this may be a model with known issues.

      This is a Hanns-G HW191D monitor, manufactured in November 2007. I've attached front and back photos of the power board. Although it's a bit difficult to see (and I've done basic cleanup) all of the radial caps on the right half of the board have some leakage and swelling at top.
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      Last edited by WatercoolerWarrior; 01-26-2015, 10:15 AM. Reason: Lost attachments

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        #4
        Re: Choosing better replacement caps for display

        cant see any other issues - wow you have a lot of bad caps hope they have not killed anything. before you recap may be worth testing the inverter transformer secondary windings. It is the gray oblong centre top with label no starts DG1000. No Power to the board- Look on the back of the board and find the 4 corner solder joints. Set your meter on ohms 2000 and test top to bottom at each end. Also there are 3 red barrel fuses - meter on ohms 200 - result should be the same as holding your probes together. Having said that if your monitor switches on they are probably ok

        There is no need to increase the voltage ratings if you use panasonic caps.
        Last edited by selldoor; 01-26-2015, 10:44 AM.
        Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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          #5
          Re: Choosing better replacement caps for display

          Originally posted by selldoor View Post
          cant see any other issues - wow you have a lot of bad caps hope they have not killed anything. before you recap may be worth testing the inverter transformer secondary windings. It is the gray oblong centre top with label no starts DG1000. No Power to the board- Look on the back of the board and find the 4 corner solder joints. Set your meter on ohms 2000 and test top to bottom at each end. Also there are 3 red barrel fuses - meter on ohms 200 - result should be the same as holding your probes together. Having said that if your monitor switches on they are probably ok

          There is no need to increase the voltage ratings if you use panasonic caps.
          +Transformer secondaries check - about 4 ohms relative to shorted VOM.

          + Red barrel fuses, 0 ohms

          + Corner solder joints is one I have trouble with, since I don't know what I'm looking for; these are the same as the 4 screw mounting points? Looking at the board from the back, AC socket at bottom: the 2 left-hand joints and the bottom right all have zero resistance relative to each other. Top right is isolated from the other 3.

          And it looks like the replacement caps are surprisingly cheap.

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            #6
            Re: Choosing better replacement caps for display

            Meter on ohms 2000 test S1 to S2 and S3 to S4
            Joints may be lacquered or have dry flux make sure you get a good contact
            Attached Files
            Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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              #7
              Re: Choosing better replacement caps for display

              Originally posted by selldoor View Post
              Meter on ohms 2000 test S1 to S2 and S3 to S4
              Joints may be lacquered or have dry flux make sure you get a good contact
              I'm glad you mentioned the potential for them being lacquered - they were. I finally managed to make good contact on S1-S2 and S3-S4; each came out to 576 ohms.

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                #8
                Re: Choosing better replacement caps for display

                That looks good then - sometimes shell out for caps then find a bad transformer
                that may be expensive or even unavailable.
                I am away for a couple of weeks hope you fix it ok
                Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                  #9
                  Re: Choosing better replacement caps for display

                  Thanks for your help; I've got the caps ordered and will know in a few days if this works. I went with Panasonic FR, identical ratings to the originals, but 8-9k hours rated.
                  Enjoy your time away, and once again, thanks for the help. You've saved me hours of research time.

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