I was wondering for recapping a ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe Motherboard for the 20 x Rubycon YXG 6.3v 1000uF caps, is there going to be a big difference in performance, stability between the Nichicon HN and HZ series as I noticed they are both listed as Ultra Low ESR by vendors but I couldn't tell what the actual differences there are, is the HN already good enough or would the HZ be overkill? Which one is at least as good as the Rubycon YXG?
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Re: Nichicon 6.3v 1000uF HN vs HZ
No, not in this application.
If the originals were only YXG, then you should be able to use even Nichicon PW class...
The difference between 6.3V 1000uF in those two series are:
(8x15mm)
HZ = 0.014 ESR 2210 Ripple
HN = 0.020 ESR 1700 Ripple
Take care not to buy from China. You'll most certainly get fakes off eBay.Last edited by mockingbird; 09-17-2014, 11:37 PM. -
Re: Nichicon 6.3v 1000uF HN vs HZ
Almighty1: Those caps are for filtering the more 'minor' voltages, such as those for the USB ports and PCI slots. HN and HZ are both miles 'better' in terms of specs than Ruby YXG, but since they are not on the CPU VRM, it's unlikely to make much of a difference (unless you want to overclock the RAM, in which case you could just replace the few on the RAM VRM)
Mockingbird: Nichicon PW is not a suitable replacement for Ruby YXG. They are on par spec wise with Nichicon HE and Chemi-con KY, and thus PW would be a downgrade.I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!
No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards
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Re: Nichicon 6.3v 1000uF HN vs HZ
Thanks guys, what is the ripple and ESR rating of the Rubycon YXG's anyways? I can get the HZ at the same price as the HN except it will take an addition week because they need to order it from their distributor. With built-in on-board NIC's such as the Intel Pro1000/CT that goes through the CSA, does it actually go through capacitors at all? Forgot to ask but does Panasonic have anything comparable to the Nichicon HN and HZ?Last edited by Almighty1; 09-18-2014, 08:18 AM.Comment
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Re: Nichicon 6.3v 1000uF HN vs HZ
Just looked at the specs of all three:
Original:
Rubycon YXG 87mOhm 504mA 4000hrs 8x17.5mm
Replacement candidates:
Nichicon HN 20mOhm 1700mA 2000hrs 8x15mm
Nichicon HZ 14mOhm 2210mA 2000hrs 8x15mm
Seems like the Nichicon's just have a shorter lifetime at 105C.
c_hegge, since the ESR is lower on the HN than the YXG's by over 400%, wouldn't the HN already do well for overclocking the RAM which are just DDR PC-3200 memory?Comment
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Re: Nichicon 6.3v 1000uF HN vs HZ
Yes. Either would be a major upgrade in terms of specs.I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!
No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards
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Re: Nichicon 6.3v 1000uF HN vs HZ
Just as I thought, thanks as always c_hegge!Comment
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