Do you think it's BAD CAPS problem?

**GEOcros** · 07-08-2006, 02:12 PM

How to TEST bad CAPS-any tools?

Was playing game and monitor screen got black, turn off PC by the
emergency button ...and can't turn it on agaen.
Removed the mobo from the case, puted it on a plain wood panel for test.
Here is the result: Just MOB+PSU+CPU+HS/Fan and speakers +mouse+
Keyboard.
Touched Power SW pins by screw-driver:
MOB light is ON
Mouse is ON
Keyboard light is ON
Lissened from speakers "BOOMP"
CPU+PSU Fans moved litle
All components worked on second PC. Thise means something is WRONG with
the MOB, it's ANY tools to check CAPS?

**willawake** · 07-08-2006, 03:32 PM

Re: Do you think it's BAD CAPS problem?

CPU+PSU Fans moved litle

sounds worse than caps. what is vcore measuring?

show pics

**tiresias** · 07-08-2006, 03:40 PM

Re: Do you think it's BAD CAPS problem?

Looks like you've narrowed down the problem to either the motherboard or CPU. CPU is unlikely, it would have to be totally fried/shorted to cause the motherboard to cut power to everything, including the fans.

So your Soyo seems to be malfunctioning somehow. But where? Does the PSU actually trip when you try to power up the board? If so, it could be a short, perhaps a failed FET in one of the VRMs.

Are your caps bad? Perhaps - but as Will said, whatever the original cause, the problem seems more serious than merely a poor cap now.

**GEOcros** · 07-08-2006, 04:25 PM

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CPU from another PC doesn't works either.

vcore measuring? What do you mean?

**willawake** · 07-08-2006, 04:33 PM

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measure vcore across a cap next to the cpu with a multimeter

**GEOcros** · 07-08-2006, 05:37 PM

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http://www.soyo.com.tw/products/proddesc.php?id=298

here is it:next to the CPU on left side it has 9 caps, i can't find there nothing, for what?

**willawake** · 07-08-2006, 05:43 PM

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you have multimeter?
it has 2 leads
set it to low volts dc and connect one lead to one lead of a cap there and one lead to the other lead of the caps
tell us the volts..
yes while the board is running, flip it over to measure

**GEOcros** · 07-08-2006, 06:57 PM

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I don't have it but i can tell you what's on the CAP wrighted on, especially i can't turn it on, i mean it light is on , doesn't means it works.

"RLX 105C 6.3V Ost"

Do you think it's better take to PC repair store?($40-50 for check up and repair if it will enough)
Or just replace the MOB with new one?

**Per Hansson** · 07-08-2006, 09:22 PM

Re: Do you think it's BAD CAPS problem?

Look at the pics here, these are pics of Badcaps, is that how they look?

https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=424

**linuxguru** · 07-08-2006, 10:31 PM

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They're OST caps, on a mobo with a Prescott CPU. It's a safe guess that a recap of all the OSTs on the mobo will probably fix it - if it hasn't taken other mobo components with it.

**gonzo0815** · 07-09-2006, 06:28 AM

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Originally posted by GEOcros

Do you think it's better take to PC repair store?($40-50 for check up and repair if it will enough)
Or just replace the MOB with new one?

Well, normal PC repair stores won`t recap anything. They swapp all components untill the system will be stable. Therefore if i am not wrong and there isn`t a quite interested and skilled stuff in your repair shop, you can change the MOBO by yourselv.
But keep in mind, that cheep PSU`s are a main concern in today`s IT equipment. Even good board`s with good capacitors can`t stand bad psu`s. So i recomend that you state the manufacturer of your psu and if you are able and knowing the high voltage risk (even if unpluged there could be enough energy stored in the I/P caps for may be an letal shock) open the psu and chek for bad caps too.
Read the PSU sektion here, you will be surprised how mad even reputable brands are realy.
Generall you can`t say if an PSu is working it will be good. Even with badly dammaged caps an psu can work without sign of problem, doing harm to all the other components in the meanwhile.
And of course, if the board`s caps are failing this can stress the other way the PSU`S caps to death..

**GEOcros** · 07-09-2006, 08:53 AM

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Yes, my PSU is working but it has REALLY BAD reviews, check thise out:
COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power 713001180 ATX12V 600W Power Supply 110V-115V/220V-230V Nemko / TUV / cUL / CE / BSMI / FCC - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817171008

I have it 2 months allready and it's under warranty, do you recommend open it up
anyway?

Another review with some picktures:
http://www.jonnyguru.com/PSU/eXtremePower600W/

**GEOcros** · 07-09-2006, 09:01 AM

Re: Do you think it's BAD CAPS problem?

Originally posted by Per Hansson

Look at the pics here, these are pics of Badcaps, is that how they look?

https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=424

Main CAPS doesn't look like thise, they are clean and w/out any bubbles.

**gonzo0815** · 07-09-2006, 06:08 PM

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Well this PSU is fine, the bad score is due to the manufacruer has caimed a to high wattage for marketing purposes.
So no problem there. So the motherboard is the bad guy here.

**GEOcros** · 07-10-2006, 04:42 PM

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Yes ,yes agaen , you are right. I just tested for $10 in PC store the CPU and it WORKS, thanks to GOD.
It means the MOB gone.
Your recommendation: try to fix thise MOB SY-P4I865PE Plus Dragon2 v1.0(people sad 99% of thise version boards are JUNK) or
buy ASUS P4P800SE, if it supports PIV 3.4 GH PRESCOT(has great reviews)?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131484

**gonzo0815** · 07-11-2006, 07:22 AM

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Well it is up to you, to mess around with that mobo. In generall the desing of vrm isn`t that bad, but as some more knowledgeable members has already stated it could possibly be a more complicated problem than just bad caps.
therefore if you can`t gett caps cheap and replace them at your own i would go for a new one. It will be at least the fastes way to get your system back on operation.
With that Asus i think you don`t can go wrong.

**GEOcros** · 07-11-2006, 09:29 PM

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Tnanks man and CONGRATULATING WITH 3-RD PLACE IN WORLD CUP, i was hoping
for GERMANY the FINAL VICTORY but what you gona do, next time i guess.

**gonzo0815** · 07-12-2006, 03:12 PM

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Well, at least the match was a little more pleasant then the final match....but anyway THX. I think the 3rd rank is ok if it has taken place in our country. Well next time in Afrika, may be we have a changse to win, if they devellop some good tactics and keeping on the good training. I wished that France has made the game...any way, it is just a game and some

But the goal against Germany from Italy was realy realy unhappy in the last 2 minutes.. if we would have lost after the 11m shooting (but probably we hadn`t

)or if the goal would hav happend at the first 45minutes i think that would be far more easier to tolerate.....but not after that long time.
Any way, i viewed the game in a city with an big video screen with some friends and obviousely some

and all in all it was very nice and emotionall.

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