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  • dood
    Deputy dood
    • Mar 2004
    • 2462
    • USA

    #1

    what caps are these, and are they crap?

    Can't find the brand here...



    Found in a Startech 250w PSU
    Ludicrous gibs!

  • tylerlough
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2005
    • 96

    #2
    Re: what caps are these, and are they crap?

    they look like a good brand because they passed quality control
    not even worth replacing the caps because it looks like a rebadged L&C power supply

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    • Mustang
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Dec 2003
      • 203

      #3
      Re: what caps are these, and are they crap?

      Those stickers are there to keep the tops from venting. It's an extra quality control measure.

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      • kc8adu
        Super Moderator
        • Nov 2003
        • 8832
        • U.S.A!

        #4
        Re: what caps are these, and are they crap?

        i have sen a similar logo with an e in the ring of satern thing

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        • tylerlough
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2005
          • 96

          #5
          Re: what caps are these, and are they crap?

          that logo with the S looks like it has a C around it, so that would make them super caps or Super crap. You pick, i'd say Super Crap because I've never heard of that PSU company

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          • dood
            Deputy dood
            • Mar 2004
            • 2462
            • USA

            #6
            Re: what caps are these, and are they crap?

            Startech is big in the local PC shops around here (well, PC shop, there's only one left). Their website- www.startech.com

            One that I have is just a rebranded (and not really even that) ATNG, and I'm assuming this one is too, but they removed mention of the ATNG brand...
            Ludicrous gibs!

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            • Rainbow
              Badcaps Legend
              • Aug 2005
              • 1371

              #7
              Re: what caps are these, and are they crap?

              It looks good - thick wires, good heatsinks.

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              • willawake
                Super Modulator
                • Nov 2003
                • 8457
                • Greece

                #8
                Re: what caps are these, and are they crap?

                what would be the recommended series to replace caps of those type?

                would there be any benefit using low esr types?

                commonly they are rated 200v in PSUs but in Greece we have mains voltage 220-230V and in UK 240v so therefore they are slightly under-rated. would it be better to use a cap rated for higher voltage?

                If they were replaced with caps of higher capacitance, say 1500uf then would the rest of the circuit need to be upgraded also?
                capacitor lab yachtmati techmati

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                • Rainbow
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 1371

                  #9
                  Re: what caps are these, and are they crap?

                  They're rated 200V but are connected in series - so it's 400V. That's why if there's only one cap, it's rated 400V.
                  I've never replaced these primary caps in a PSU.

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                  • Newbie2
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 885
                    • Canada

                    #10
                    Re: what caps are these, and are they crap?

                    I have seen a similar saturn logo but it was just a saturn with the normal ring around it. That was spotted in an L&C LC-B450E power supply on the two big main caps that have the normal X vent, some of the other smaller caps that have the Panasonic T vent, and the main 80MM fan of it. The fan was so weak there was only a tiny amount of air going out of the back. It was as weak as a normal 80MM fan that was only powered by 7.5V.

                    P.S. Both of those two big main caps had a QC sticker on the vent.
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                    • willawake
                      Super Modulator
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 8457
                      • Greece

                      #11
                      Re: what caps are these, and are they crap?

                      P.S. Both of those two big main caps had a QC sticker on the vent.
                      you know they are joking right?
                      capacitor lab yachtmati techmati

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                      • Newbie2
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 885
                        • Canada

                        #12
                        Re: what caps are these, and are they crap?

                        Originally posted by willawake
                        you know they are joking right?
                        I know L&C never does QC because then how come they are so bad?

                        Deer claims on their website they have QC but it's very easy to lie.
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                        G.SKILL Value Series 16GB DDR3-1333 RAM (4x4GB dual channel)
                        TOSHIBA DT01ACA200 2TB 3.5" SATA HDD (x2)
                        WD Caviar Green WD20EARX 2TB 3.5" SATA HDD
                        ASUS Xonar DG 5.1 Channel PCI sound card
                        Antec HCG-750M 750W ATX12V v2.32 80 PLUS BRONZE Power Supply
                        Antec Three Hundred Mid-Tower Case
                        Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
                        Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit

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                        • dood
                          Deputy dood
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 2462
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: what caps are these, and are they crap?

                          You can do QC and still have a crappy product... as long as it's working when it leaves the plant.

                          willawake was pointing out that they were joking about the QC stickers keeping the caps from venting.
                          Ludicrous gibs!

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                          • Newbie2
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 885
                            • Canada

                            #14
                            Re: what caps are these, and are they crap?

                            Originally posted by dood
                            You can do QC and still have a crappy product... as long as it's working when it leaves the plant.

                            willawake was pointing out that they were joking about the QC stickers keeping the caps from venting.
                            Oh, maybe the stickers are used to cover up the electrolytic crud if the caps fail.
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                            AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition 3.3GHz Six-Core CPU (Socket AM3)
                            ASUS M4A77TD AMD 770 AM3 Motherboard
                            PowerColor AMD Radeon RX 480 8GB GDDR5 PCI-Express x16 3.0 Graphics Card
                            G.SKILL Value Series 16GB DDR3-1333 RAM (4x4GB dual channel)
                            TOSHIBA DT01ACA200 2TB 3.5" SATA HDD (x2)
                            WD Caviar Green WD20EARX 2TB 3.5" SATA HDD
                            ASUS Xonar DG 5.1 Channel PCI sound card
                            Antec HCG-750M 750W ATX12V v2.32 80 PLUS BRONZE Power Supply
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                            Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
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