so when 1000 uf caps red at 1150 uf does this mean capacitor should not be used and is this signs of a deteriorating capacitor or has it simply been made that way
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Re: capacitor value too high
yes, but thats VR, in the real world at room temperature your going to get -20% and +nothing%.
they are never over - i'v always suspected they are graded at the factory for special customers.
and i have seen many dozens of caps read over-value.
every one had internal leakage on my tester
he could charge it with a battery and then leave it for a while before checking it with a voltmeter but i'm telling you now that it's gonna self-discharge
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That's typical .. Lot of people confuse testing devices functions . Those are mainly a quick help to locate a problem , and accelerate a repair , but professionals repairers always have in their arsenal electronic circuits to test specific components under load . The more components circuits loaders you have , the more you're a professional .
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Momaka wrote a good thread about reconditioning capacitors . It may help you .
https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...ing+capacitors
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Originally posted by martyb View Postso when 1000 uf caps red at 1150 uf does this mean capacitor should not be used and is this signs of a deteriorating capacitor or has it simply been made that way
Usually higher capacitance means higher internal electrical leakage.
However, I also say it depends on the capacitor brand and series a little - as in, if you see around 15% or higher capacitance on a Chinese, Taiwanese, or Korean brand, it's probably a safe bet the capacitor's electrolyte has started to break down, causing internal leakage to go higher, and most likely will continue to go higher / break down further, leading to failure over time.
With the reputable Japanese brands, though, I treat them a little differently, since even a cap with higher internal leakage could still last longer than a cheap no-name garbage brand. For example, I still have some Nichicon HZ 6.3V 2200 uF with date codes beginning with H05 (from Xbox 360 motherboards) that are known to go bad over time. Almost all of my stock of these has gone bad. The very few that I still have that haven't bulged/leaked read well over 20% capacitance... and have been that way for a number of years. So clearly they are not to be used for anything long term. However, they still work good enough for testing out or temporary equipment recaps if I don't have enough caps. So even in their "half-failed" state, they have been more reliable than some no-name garbage brands.
Of course, the bottom line is: if you're doing a repair you want to last a while, don't use caps that have higher than 10% higher capacitance, especially any non-Japanese brands.
Originally posted by stj View Posti recondition caps by throwing them in the bin
https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...&postcount=548
https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...&postcount=585
Originally posted by stj View Postwho was the member who used to throw them into a garden fire? LOL
I couldn't recall the name, but I remember the avatar with the blue-colored lizard... so took a look through one of the early sticky threads and sure enough found out.
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Need leakage tester. If you see high leakage with high 'capacitance' be sure to mark the capacitance suspect.
Note that pretty much all aluminum electrolytics leak some current, question is how much and how much is too much. The larger the capacitance the larger the expected leakage -- to an extent.
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