Sony KD-55X8509C fails after warmup

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  • mrsith
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2021
    • 146
    • Wielka Brytania

    #1

    Sony KD-55X8509C fails after warmup

    Hi, I've got a Sony set that acts weird. It works absolutely fine for 2-3 hours, then shuts down with 6 blinks. After a bit of cooldown it works again for some time. Service menu indicates backlight error, but in edge-lit TV it would be clearly visible that one or more LEDs fail.
    The person I bought the TV from replaced the power supply with no effect on the issue (he even gave me.the spare one with the TV). Main board and the TCon seem reasobably warm.
    Pics of PSU (original one) and MB attached.
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  • nomoresonys
    Badcaps Legend
    • Jan 2013
    • 12129
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    #2
    Re: Sony KD-55X8509C fails after warmup

    need a picture of the whole back of tv as to see how everything is connected.

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    • dskall
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      • Oct 2016
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      • usa

      #3
      Re: Sony KD-55X8509C fails after warmup

      I would heat parts of main board and see if you can locate problem.
      I assume no responsibility for any stupid suggestions I might post.

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      • kasfamily
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        • Aug 2014
        • 765
        • Russia

        #4
        Re: Sony KD-55X8509C fails after warmup

        https://youtu.be/uW3i_rSSwjk

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        • mrsith
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2021
          • 146
          • Wielka Brytania

          #5
          Re: Sony KD-55X8509C fails after warmup

          Pic attached showing how everything is connected.

          I'll try heating.

          I know how to replace the backlights, it doesn't seem like a LED strip problem as they work fine for couple of hours before the TV fails.
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          • nomoresonys
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            • Jan 2013
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            #6
            Re: Sony KD-55X8509C fails after warmup

            ok, have a good look the legend/map on powerboard, do any of them say bl-err?

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            • mrsith
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2021
              • 146
              • Wielka Brytania

              #7
              Re: Sony KD-55X8509C fails after warmup

              BL-ERR gives 2.3v with set powered off but plugged in.

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              • nomoresonys
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                • Jan 2013
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                #8
                Re: Sony KD-55X8509C fails after warmup

                what does it read powered up?

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                • mrsith
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                  • Mar 2021
                  • 146
                  • Wielka Brytania

                  #9
                  Re: Sony KD-55X8509C fails after warmup

                  Nothing at all.

                  I've been told by 2 separate sources that the smthe LEDs tend to fail this way in this TVs. Been explained how and why and it made sense so I've boufmght replacement strips. I'll post if it solved the problem after changing and testing them.

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                  • nomoresonys
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                    • Jan 2013
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                    #10
                    Re: Sony KD-55X8509C fails after warmup

                    could be backlights and they do fail a lot but i have a feeling it isn't.

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                    • mrsith
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                      • Mar 2021
                      • 146
                      • Wielka Brytania

                      #11
                      Re: Sony KD-55X8509C fails after warmup

                      Apparently these backlights tend to fail this way. I had original parts to replace and I could see that old LEDs were clearly darker/oranger than new strips.

                      The TV was working fine for 5-6 hours after replacing them, looks like the job is done. Thanks a lot for your attention and advice!

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                      • nomoresonys
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                        • Jan 2013
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                        #12
                        Re: Sony KD-55X8509C fails after warmup

                        ok, glad to hear its fixed, so to be clear, when tv is working properly, the standby bl-err is 2.3, and 0 when powered up?

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                        • kasfamily
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                          • Aug 2014
                          • 765
                          • Russia

                          #13
                          Re: Sony KD-55X8509C fails after warmup

                          Recommendations
                          The APS-385 power supply uses two four-channel CXA3854M chips, a total of 8 channels. The outputs of the inputs FB - 19, 20, 21, 22 of each chip are supplied with a signal from current sensors consisting of three low-resistance resistors connected in parallel to a chain of transistor switches. Reduce the backlight current from 140 mA to 90 mA in each channel - remove eight 8.2 Ohm resistors in each channel.

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                          • mrsith
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2021
                            • 146
                            • Wielka Brytania

                            #14
                            Re: Sony KD-55X8509C fails after warmup

                            To be honest I did not check bl-err voltage after replacing the LEDs, I'll try to do that if it's still in the office.

                            Great advice with resistors, thank you!

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