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  • 12rounds
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    Re: Fixed a ViewSonic N3260w

    i am reading 65v on cns1 where i should have 12 and 24v. i don't know why....

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  • budm
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    "i am not getting 12 or 24v. i am getting about 65v in both of these places." I do not understand on 65V reading.
    "t1 12 and 24v?" That is correct, IC1 L6598 is the SMPS for the 12V/24V power supply.
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    PIN 8:
    Comparators
    Two CMOS comparators are available to perform protection schemes.
    Short pulses (≥ 200 ns) on comparators input are recognized. The EN1 input (active high),
    has a threshold of 0.6 V (typical value) forces the device in a latched shut down state (e.g.
    LVG low, HVG low, oscillator stopped), as in the under voltage conditions. Normal operating
    conditions are resumed after a power-off power-on sequence. The EN2 input (active high),
    with a threshold of 1.2 V (typical value) restarts a Soft Start sequence (see timing
    diagrams). In addition the EN2 comparator, when activated, removes a latched shutdown
    caused by EN1.
    So if pin 8 sees 0.6V 200 nano second pulse, it will then trip the shutdown.
    You should check C15 (0.022uF 1KV cap) which is connected to one end of T1 Primary winding to ground, if the capacitance goes down, it will produce enough pulse to trip the IC.
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    Last edited by budm; 10-19-2014, 05:56 PM.

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  • 12rounds
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    Re: Fixed a ViewSonic N3260w

    i am not getting 12 or 24v. i am getting about 65v in both of these places. there is also something wrong with q1 and q2 - possible with ic1. i get 346v on q1 drain, a pulsing low on the gate and what looks like nothing on the source. i have pretty much nothing on q2 anywhere.

    i have 13.2v on p12 of ic1 so it is getting voltage. i have nothing on the EN1 line (ic1p8). i think that i have an issue with optocoupler 1c4 - i see that there is 5v on p1 and 4v on pin2, so the diode should be coming on. on the primary side of the coupler i have 14v on p4 (collector) and -8v on the emitter (p3).

    i don't really know where to go from here. is t2's only output 5v? and t1 12 and 24v?
    Last edited by 12rounds; 10-19-2014, 05:31 PM.

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  • budm
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    Re: Fixed a ViewSonic N3260w

    OK, IC2 (TEA1532) is the SMPS IC for making 5V STBY, so it must be working since you are getting the boosted Voltage on main filter cap C1 (180uF 450VDC) and the main board is sending the PS_ON to turn on the PFC Voltage booster.
    IC1 (L6598) is the SMPS for the 24VDC and the 12VDC, are you getting those two voltages?
    BTW, your meter AC frequency bandwidth is not high enough to measure 70~100KHz AC,
    Last edited by budm; 10-17-2014, 08:35 PM.

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  • 12rounds
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    Re: Fixed a ViewSonic N3260w

    update:

    I poster printed the available schematic and sat down for a couple hours to see if i could understand what is happening with my broken supply. I am pretty confident that my PFC circuit is functioning properly at this point - IC3 and Q3 seem to be playing nice with each other and functioning as a boost converter; I now have 346V across the main filtering cap c1.

    That is the good part. the bad part is it looks like this is remaining 346V is DC across the transformer. I don't think that IC2 (smps ic) is pulsing its drive for q4's gate. there is only 0.95vdc on the gate of q4 - the datasheet list the gate threshold at 2-4vdc. There is a fluxing voltage on the source of q4 measuring 14.5vac and 345vdc at q4's drain. I am not sure how to determine if ic2 is bad, or if these is a problem in it's CTRL or SENSE network.

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  • 12rounds
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    Re: Fixed a ViewSonic N3260w

    spent some more time with this - after replacing the rest of the electro caps, the pfc ic, dead q7, and incorrect q11 the supply comes one without any more smoke. have to start looking at the schematic again and see what else is supposed to turn on now. no backlight comes on, so there is still something wrong.

    I'm trying to understand how the DRV output on IC3 is supposed to work. I think i might be getting hung up on this...
    Last edited by 12rounds; 10-14-2014, 07:15 PM.

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  • budm
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    Re: Fixed a ViewSonic N3260w

    If the MOSFET for the PFC failed, it will take out the IC.

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  • 12rounds
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    pretty close so far. after work going to go through the pfc network and see is i can find anything wrong that would short out the ic. any ideas?

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  • budm
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    Re: Fixed a ViewSonic N3260w

    I have that diagram, it is closed but not sure how close it is to your board.

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  • 12rounds
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    Re: Fixed a ViewSonic N3260w

    you are correct - 16pin ic vcc pin is not 25ohm to gnd. pfc ic is internally short to gnd...

    i just found this - it is for a different supply, but the parts that i have checked are VERY similar.
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    Last edited by 12rounds; 10-01-2014, 09:25 AM.

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  • budm
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    Re: Fixed a ViewSonic N3260w

    OK, so they have another switched transistor for providing the VCC to the SMPS IC, I assume the VCC pin to ground on the 12v/24v is not at 25 Ohms, right?
    So it looks you will have to start removing parts to find out which one is giving you that 25 Ohms reading.

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  • 12rounds
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    Re: Fixed a ViewSonic N3260w

    got wires crossed. i have the 16 pin soic as a high voltage resonant controller - for step up transformer i assume -and ic2, an 8 pin soic, as the smps controller (by part number and data sheet cross reference).

    i have the 16pin ic vcc coming from q9 collector. q9 emitter is tied to vcc of pfc ic.

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  • budm
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    Re: Fixed a ViewSonic N3260w

    The SMPS IC for the 12V/24V should get the VCC from switched transistor some where, I only see Q11 as the only one.
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  • 12rounds
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    Re: Fixed a ViewSonic N3260w

    q11 collector is not connected to smps ic vcc. it is decoupled via c32.

    i have 2 of these boards - both nonfunctional. i haven't touched to other one, but it does not read 25ohhs from pri gnd to q11 collector.

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  • 12rounds
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    Re: Fixed a ViewSonic N3260w

    what is ics?

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  • budm
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    Re: Fixed a ViewSonic N3260w

    25 Ohms reading is more likely to be caused by the ICS, we know that the Collector is connected to the VCC pin of the PFC IC, is t also connected to the VCC of the SMPS IC for the 12/14v section?

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  • 12rounds
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    Re: Fixed a ViewSonic N3260w

    missed the point of what i was doing there. 25ohms form q11collector to gnd.

    ...which indicates c32 is short? no, that's not right - try to follow jumper wires....

    it seems like i need to replace the 5 remaining electro caps as there is one filtering the vcc leg of the pwm ic. then r&r q7, check vcc to gnd and make sure i don't have 25ohms and more, power it on and see if i killed the pwm ic.

    thoughts?
    Last edited by 12rounds; 09-30-2014, 05:13 PM.

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  • budm
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    Re: Fixed a ViewSonic N3260w

    "q11 collector is still low to primary ground" How low is it, it should be low enough to draw so much current to make smoke.

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  • 12rounds
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    Re: Fixed a ViewSonic N3260w

    checked the solder under the scope earlier - it's fine. q7 appears dead with diode check in circuit. q11 collector is still low to primary ground.

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  • budm
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    Re: Fixed a ViewSonic N3260w

    The output of Q7 (Emitter) feeds the Voltage to the switched transistor Q11 which supplies the voltage for running the PFC IC and the 24V SMPS IC.
    Did you recheck the soldering works and no solder bridge any where? see if Q7 is damaged.
    Check the Collector of Q11 and the primary circuit ground to see if it shows low Ohms.

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