UN55D6900 BN44-00428B partial led driver circuit failure

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  • Daveleone
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    Re: UN55D6900 BN44-00428B partial led driver circuit failure

    Originally posted by RDC55
    I was trying to help but those hookups for the LED's just don't make any sense. I have a UN60D6000 (Man Feb 2012) opened and it is crystal clear. There are 8 LED segments, 4 left and 4 right each measuring about 143VDC with LED tester. Each pin has a wire as depicted in the legend on the board - see attached.

    How were you testing with the LED tester - between what pins? How can you test L1, L2 when L1+ (5) has no wire and L2- (3) has no wire?

    And I got nowhere trying to relate all those wires to the schematic that is in the thread you referenced - there just are not enough wires on that drawing for CNL801A & B.

    Maybe I am just confused
    Ok, I did a bunch of testing with my LED tester and my multimeter to check continuity, and here's what I figured out. All 4 LED driver circuits are the same, and the full circuits look like this:

    1) R1+ to L1-
    2) R3+ to L3-
    3) R5+ to L5-
    4) R7+ to L7-

    Here's how the circuits work...
    - There are 2 LED strips in the TV, a left one and a right one.
    - Each LED strip has 4 segments.
    - The segments on the left strip are: L2+ to L1-, L4+ to L3-, L6+ to L5-, and L8+ to L7-
    - The segments on the right strip are: R1+ to R2-, R3+ to R4-, R5+ to R6-, and R7+ to R8-
    - Testing between any single segment (eg L2+ to L1-, or R1+ to R2-) with the LED tester lights up the corresponding segment of LEDs on that particular strip and drives 69v.
    - Testing for continuity shows that the Left and Right strips are tied together at the following points: R2- and L2+, R4- and L4+, R6- and L6+, and R8- and L8+
    - Therefore, this creates 4 full LED driver circuits. For example, R1+ -> (R2-/L2+) -> L1- (so the full circuit is R1+ to L1-)
    - Connecting the positive lead of my LED tester to R1+ and the negative lead to L1- lights up the corresponding 1st segment of LEDs on both the left and right strips and drives 138v across them.

    Make sense? If it's still confusing let me know and I can draw a picture of it.
    Last edited by Daveleone; 08-01-2021, 02:55 PM.

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  • RDC55
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    Re: UN55D6900 BN44-00428B partial led driver circuit failure

    Originally posted by Daveleone
    bump. help needed, please
    I was trying to help but those hookups for the LED's just don't make any sense. I have a UN60D6000 (Man Feb 2012) opened and it is crystal clear. There are 8 LED segments, 4 left and 4 right each measuring about 143VDC with LED tester. Each pin has a wire as depicted in the legend on the board - see attached.

    How were you testing with the LED tester - between what pins? How can you test L1, L2 when L1+ (5) has no wire and L2- (3) has no wire?

    And I got nowhere trying to relate all those wires to the schematic that is in the thread you referenced - there just are not enough wires on that drawing for CNL801A & B.

    Maybe I am just confused
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  • Daveleone
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    Re: UN55D6900 BN44-00428B partial led driver circuit failure

    Originally posted by neilc6
    I would not rule out bad LEDs
    Ok, thanks! In that case I think my next test will be to swap the wires in the connector so that the suspect LED driver circuit is driving a different subset of LEDs. If the original subset of LEDs are still not lit (the new driver circuit being used now appears affected/lower voltage) then the problem is the LEDs. If the problem moves to the new subset of LEDs then the problem is the original LED driver circuit.

    I will report back my findings.

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  • neilc6
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    Re: UN55D6900 BN44-00428B partial led driver circuit failure

    I would not rule out bad LEDs. Your LED tester only puts out 10-20mA and the circuit likely runs at several hundred mA. I have replaced LEDs on a few models with symptoms of bad backlights but all the LEDs tested good with a tester (LG UH series with logo flash & Sony with 6 blinks). I've done so many that I typically don't even test any more and just replace them all with new.
    Last edited by neilc6; 07-28-2021, 03:05 PM.

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  • Daveleone
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    Re: UN55D6900 BN44-00428B partial led driver circuit failure

    bump. help needed, please

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  • UN55D6900 BN44-00428B partial led driver circuit failure

    Hello TV experts! I have a UN55D6900. The successfully TV turns on, and the backlights light up, and I get a picture, but there is a section that is dim. I took it apart and 1 out of 4 segments of backlight LEDs are not lighting on both sides of the TV (in other words, the same segment is out on both LED strips).

    I tested the LED strips with my LED tester and all of the LEDs light properly, so I believe the problem is with the PSU/LED driver board (BN44-00428B). The voltages at CNM810 (between PSU and main board) look ok to me. The voltages at CNL801A and CNL801B look off for one of the 4 LED driver circuits. I've bolded the voltages below that seem wrong to me.

    CNM810
    PWM_DIM4 0.265v
    PWM_DIM3 0.265v
    PWM_DIM2 0.265v
    PWM_DIM1 0.265v
    B13V 12.75v
    BLU-ON 4.71v
    GND 0
    GND 0
    ASV 5.40v
    PS-ON 3.3v
    NC 0
    ---------------------
    OD_Level 3.253v
    OD_ON 3.278v
    GND 0
    B13V 12.75v
    B13V 12.75v
    Vamp 1.789v
    Vamp 1.789v
    GND 0
    B5V 5.39v
    B5V 5.39v
    NC 0

    CNL801A
    L2+ 99.7v
    L6+ 101.3v
    L1- 40.8v
    L5- 42.1v
    L8+ 100.8v
    L4+ 68.0v ???
    L7- 41.6v
    L3- 14.69v ???
    IF1 2.97v
    IF2 2.97v

    CNL801B
    R7+ 161.8v
    R3+ 126.8v
    R8- 100.8v
    R4- 68.0v
    R1+ 160.8v
    R5+ 162.3v
    R2- 99.8v
    R6- 101.3v

    I also checked the voltages on either side of each diode in the 4 LED driver circuits (top voltage, bottom voltage)

    D9451 161.6v / 126.8v
    D9351 162.0v / 126.8v
    D9251 126.8v / 126.8v (I think this driver circuit is bad)
    D9151 160.5v / 126.8v

    I've included images of both the front and the back of the LED driver circuits on the board. Looking for help on what I should test next to pinpoint what part of the driver circuit is bad and which component(s) need to be replaced?

    THANKS!!

    P.S. I did find this thread, but it focused on relay clicking/lack of power on, not faulty driver circuits. There are some schematics in there though.
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