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  • DjKrish
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Oct 2012
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    #21
    Re: higher standby voltage on a phillips tv power supply

    Originally posted by budm
    Well, you have more than one problem, the 3.3V is fixed but now you have another problem so just have to do more troubleshooting.
    Try disconnecting the backlights LED connector and see what happen.
    Tried that as well. Nothing. Not standby light. Do more troubleshooting as in on the main board or the power board? Any idea how do i short the power supply to turn on the voltages so i can measure them? Theres no PL on on this but theres BL on.

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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
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      #22
      Re: higher standby voltage on a phillips tv power supply

      If you look at the schematic in your post #4, you will see that the STANDBY (PS-ON) connector CN4 pin 2 is active low, so if you run the power supply board by itself then you can force on the power supply on by shorting STANDBY pin to Ground.
      BL-ON-OFF is active high so to turn on the backlights circuit you need to use 100 Ohms resistor between 3.3V pin and the BL-ON-OFF pin.
      It is 2:40AM my time so I am going to bed, good night.
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      • DjKrish
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        • Oct 2012
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        #23
        Re: higher standby voltage on a phillips tv power supply

        Ok i shorted standby to ground, i have 3.3v, 24v and 12v perfectly. So the board output voltage is good now. Could it be the mainboard?

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        • budm
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
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          #24
          Re: higher standby voltage on a phillips tv power supply

          Originally posted by DjKrish
          Ok i shorted standby to ground, i have 3.3v, 24v and 12v perfectly. So the board output voltage is good now. Could it be the mainboard?
          OK.
          Connect the main board to the power supply board, no power to the TV, then check the resistance between:
          GND and 5V pin
          GND and 12V pin
          GND and 24V pin
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          • DjKrish
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            • Oct 2012
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            #25
            Re: higher standby voltage on a phillips tv power supply

            When connect the main board to the tv, there's only 3.3v there. The rest all missing.

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            • budm
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              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
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              #26
              Re: higher standby voltage on a phillips tv power supply

              I am asking for RESISTANCE readings on my post #24.
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • DjKrish
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                • Oct 2012
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                #27
                Re: higher standby voltage on a phillips tv power supply

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                Last edited by DjKrish; 08-07-2020, 09:44 PM.

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                • DjKrish
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Oct 2012
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                  #28
                  Re: higher standby voltage on a phillips tv power supply

                  Originally posted by budm
                  OK.
                  Connect the main board to the power supply board, no power to the TV, then check the resistance between:
                  GND and 5V pin
                  GND and 12V pin
                  GND and 24V pin
                  Originally posted by budm
                  I am asking for RESISTANCE readings on my post #24.
                  Sorry misread it.

                  GND and 5V pin - theres no 5v pin there, only 3.3v
                  GND and 12V pin - keeps climbing till 3 kohms
                  GND and 24V pin - keeps climbing till 11 kohms

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
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                    #29
                    Re: higher standby voltage on a phillips tv power supply

                    Originally posted by DjKrish
                    Sorry misread it.

                    GND and 5V pin - theres no 5v pin there, only 3.3v
                    GND and 12V pin - keeps climbing till 3 kohms
                    GND and 24V pin - keeps climbing till 11 kohms
                    OK, I was looking to see if the 12V and the 24V loads on the main board are loading down the power supply or not.
                    So now you have to troubleshoot the main board, you will need to locate the schematic of your main board assembly.
                    I am still wondering why the power supply was squealing and now you do not even have any indicator lights on from the main board with 3.3V Standby present..
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
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                    • DjKrish
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                      • Oct 2012
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                      #30
                      Re: higher standby voltage on a phillips tv power supply

                      Originally posted by budm
                      OK, I was looking to see if the 12V and the 24V loads on the main board are loading down the power supply or not.
                      So now you have to troubleshoot the main board, you will need to locate the schematic of your main board assembly.
                      I am still wondering why the power supply was squealing and now you do not even have any indicator lights on from the main board with 3.3V Standby present..
                      Exactly. Because once theres 3.3v supply, the mainboard should be working already to standby mode. But theres no standby LED at all. Afraid something else blew during the 6v

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
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                        #31
                        Re: higher standby voltage on a phillips tv power supply

                        Originally posted by DjKrish
                        Exactly. Because once theres 3.3v supply, the mainboard should be working already to standby mode. But theres no standby LED at all. Afraid something else blew during the 6v
                        That is possible, but at least it did work for seconds after you fix the 3.3V supply.
                        Attach good clear pictures of the whole main board so we can see what it has on the board.
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • DjKrish
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                          • Oct 2012
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                          #32
                          Re: higher standby voltage on a phillips tv power supply

                          Originally posted by budm
                          That is possible, but at least it did work for seconds after you fix the 3.3V supply.
                          Attach good clear pictures of the whole main board so we can see what it has on the board.
                          Hi these are the pictures
                          Attached Files

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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
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                            #33
                            Re: higher standby voltage on a phillips tv power supply

                            What Voltage do you get on the STANDBY (PS-ON) pin on the power supply board when all the boards are connected together?
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • DjKrish
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 354
                              • SG

                              #34
                              Re: higher standby voltage on a phillips tv power supply

                              Originally posted by budm
                              What Voltage do you get on the STANDBY (PS-ON) pin on the power supply board when all the boards are connected together?
                              PS ON
                              2.688v without mainboard
                              0.067v with mainboard

                              3.3v standby
                              Is same with or without mainboard

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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #35
                                Re: higher standby voltage on a phillips tv power supply

                                Originally posted by DjKrish
                                PS ON
                                2.688v without mainboard
                                0.067v with mainboard

                                3.3v standby
                                Is same with or without mainboard
                                Since PS-ON is active low, so the 12V/24V should be present right now, IN POST #23 we already verify that when you ground PS-ON when running the power supply board by itself you do get the 12V and 24V.
                                So are you sure you are not getting 12V and 24V?
                                Last edited by budm; 08-08-2020, 10:01 PM.
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                • DjKrish
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Oct 2012
                                  • 354
                                  • SG

                                  #36
                                  Re: higher standby voltage on a phillips tv power supply

                                  Originally posted by budm
                                  Since PS-ON is active low, so the 12V/24V should be present right now, IN POST #23 we already verify that when you ground PS-ON when running the power supply board by itself you do get the 12V and 24V.
                                  So are you sure you are not getting 12V and 24V?
                                  Yes with main board connected, 24 and 12 is present. But no standby light, no power

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                                  • DjKrish
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                                    • Oct 2012
                                    • 354
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                                    #37
                                    Re: higher standby voltage on a phillips tv power supply

                                    Ok now theres picture on the screen. But the backlight transformer started buzzing lightly when picture is there. Below are the readings from left.

                                    Silver - 5.50v
                                    Black - 69.6v
                                    Silver - 69.6v
                                    White - 133.7v
                                    Silver - 5.66v
                                    Blue - 69.7v
                                    Silver - 69.7v
                                    Red - 134v
                                    Attached Files

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                                    • budm
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Feb 2010
                                      • 40746
                                      • USA

                                      #38
                                      Re: higher standby voltage on a phillips tv power supply

                                      Originally posted by DjKrish
                                      Yes with main board connected, 24 and 12 is present. But no standby light, no power
                                      I am confused:
                                      Your post #25:
                                      When connect the main board to the tv, there's only 3.3v there. The rest all missing.

                                      But now you are saying you have 12v and 24V.
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                      • budm
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 40746
                                        • USA

                                        #39
                                        Re: higher standby voltage on a phillips tv power supply

                                        Originally posted by DjKrish
                                        Ok now theres picture on the screen. But the backlight transformer started buzzing lightly when picture is there. Below are the readings from left.

                                        Silver - 5.50v
                                        Black - 69.6v
                                        Silver - 69.6v
                                        White - 133.7v
                                        Silver - 5.66v
                                        Blue - 69.7v
                                        Silver - 69.7v
                                        Red - 134v
                                        https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...8&d=1596948725
                                        Why is one of the wires has long exposed conductor?

                                        Which transformer is buzzing? What is the Transformer designator? T?????
                                        Last edited by budm; 08-08-2020, 11:25 PM.
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                        • DjKrish
                                          Badcaps Veteran
                                          • Oct 2012
                                          • 354
                                          • SG

                                          #40
                                          Re: higher standby voltage on a phillips tv power supply

                                          Originally posted by budm
                                          https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...8&d=1596948725
                                          Why is one of the wires has long exposed conductor?
                                          Not really sure. The tv came like that. There's no heat though. Now the tv had good picture and sound. Except the buzzing sound from the back light transformer.

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