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    Samsung UN55C6300

    Hello everyone.

    I beseech the help of this forum in hopes there can be a resolution to my television dilemma.
    Bear with me as what I layout might be long, but the slight detail may mean the difference between solution and failure.

    Overview

    I received this tv from my brother. I am told that after a week of idle (a vacation) the tv did not turn on. He took it for repair and was told nothing was wrong and that it did in fact work. And lo it did work until the next prolonged idle time. After a year delay he gave it to me to explore and play around with.
    The status of the tv as I took ownership of it:
    When plugged in, the red standby light comes on. Upon pushing the power button, standby flashes five times and the Power Supply relay clicks once. After a short delay the relay clicks again and the sequence can be repeated again. No LCD, no backlight, no sound.

    The testing and prodding:

    -No noticeable physical damage of any sort (ie burn,crack,leak)
    -The PS fuses test good
    -The PS electrolytic capacitors test within the +-10% (no esr meter test though) {out of circuit}
    -The PS transistors seem to measure fine (in and out of circuit)
    -PS Bridge rectifier seems to measure fine (in circuit)
    -PS Diodes seem to measure fine (in circuit)
    -The outputs of the PS to the main board all test to spec of the legend
    -The main board seems to measure voltage correctly (according to the service manual trouble shooting)
    -The outputs to the backlight seem to measure the appropriate voltage, HOWEVER, I have yet to get it to turn on via PS power. The LEDs on their own light up (via multi meter one at a time) but I don't have a battery/supply big enough to light them all up. The wiring tests good continuity.
    -The Tcon board does not have any voltage going into it. The fuse tests good continuity, as does the lvds cable. I cannot measure any voltage on the main board side either.

    At the current stage, the tv has no backlight and no voltage to tcon but PS and Main seem to check out fine.
    This has turned into an odd quandary for me as I have exhausted my limited experience. According to the internet, this is an odd combination and I cannot find similar situations. Also due to the age of the tv, exact parts may be a struggle to find. I am under the impression that there is no such thing as universal components (mofets in particular) and if it is not a match to the coding then it won't work.
    At this point I would just like to understand what is at error. If there is a check/test I have overlooked, I would be pleased with the assistance.

    Thank you for your consideration.

    Model: UN55c6300SFXZC
    PS: BN44-00358B
    Main: BN94-03366E
    Tcon: V460H1-CH7
    Attached Files

    #2
    Re: Samsung UN55C6300

    This is from shopjimmy.com. These parts are in the repair kit that I used last year and worked. My problem was blown fuse along with several small through hole fets.The kit is under 15 bucks. You should touch up all solder joints on the power supply.
    Attached Files
    Last edited by tvtimmy; 12-09-2017, 02:57 PM. Reason: more info

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      #3
      Re: Samsung UN55C6300

      Thank you for the quick reply.
      At such a low investment, it would do to put a smile of success on my face. As well as a smile on my brothers for getting his tv back from the dead.
      I appreciate the help.

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        #4
        Re: Samsung UN55C6300

        Update:

        I purchased and installed the repair parts that Tvtimmy recommended above.

        As of now the tv still has standby. When the power button is pushed, the relay will click on and I will get a solid red light. No longer the 5 flashes. About 30seconds later the relay will click again.
        I notice that the ethernet port on the main board now flashes its green/orange lights once.
        The backlight still does not come on in any un/plugged configuration. The flashlight test results are negative.
        Other than those slight variations, I am at the same point I initially started with.

        If anyone has any insight, I would appreciate hearing about it.

        Thank you

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          #5
          Re: Samsung UN55C6300

          Are you sure you put everything back in the direction they came out? I take alot of pics beforehand just to make sure.

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            #6
            Re: Samsung UN55C6300

            You indicated the so call correct Voltages but you never report the Control Voltages as to what they are.
            How bout report ALL the readings of ALL the pins of the power supply connector that goes to the main board?
            Put down the pin names and follow by the Voltage reading when TV is in stand by and when the power switch is activated.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              #7
              Re: Samsung UN55C6300

              The following is information from the legend board, standby voltage, and active voltage.

              CNM801 (pins to main board)

              Pin..Legend.........Standby........Active
              1.... D12.8v........... 0 ............. 17.25
              2.....Ydry det......... 0............... 2.26
              3.....D12.8V.............0.............17.25
              4.....BLU_on/off.......5.18.......... 5.15
              5......D12.8v..........0.08............5.12
              6.....PWM_DIM.......0.08...........5.15
              7.......GND............0.08...........5.16
              8.....H_SYNC............0..............0
              9.....GND.................0............. 0
              10....GND.................0.............0
              11....D3.3v..............0..............0
              12....GND.............0.08.............1.2
              13....D5.3v...............0.............12.65
              14....D5.3v..............4...............0.45
              15....Vamp_18v........0..............12.65
              16....STBY_5.2v........0..............0.05
              17....Vamp_18v..........0............12.65
              18....PWR_on/off.........0..............0


              CNL801 (pins to backlight)

              ................ OUT2-.....OUT2+ .......OUT1-........OUT1+
              standby.........0/0....... 0/.02 ......... 0/0.......... 0/.02
              active.........15/106.....106/203.....16/106.......106/202



              I could have sworn originally all the voltages I checked matched the legends, which is why I didn't take any note of them. Now they seems all wonky. Getting voltage where I shouldn't and vice-versa.

              I looked at the original pictures I took pre repair kit and didn't see anything installed backwards.
              Could it be I am shorting something out with my amatuerish soldering job?
              Will post better pictures if requested.

              Thank you.

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                #8
                Re: Samsung UN55C6300

                You count the pins wrong, the exposed pins that you can see from the top side of the board are the ODD number pin, the EVEN number pins you have to get to them from the bottom side of the board or from the wire entrance side of the connector.
                The reason i say you count the pins wrong because you are showing 0V for the Standby Voltage but yet you do have some of the control signals and some of the switched power supply.
                "16....STBY_5.2v........0..............0.05"
                You need to recheck ALL the Voltages again.
                BN44-00358B?
                Last edited by budm; 12-23-2017, 04:35 PM.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  #9
                  Re: Samsung UN55C6300

                  Double checked I was doing it right. The visible top pins are odd# and give the same results. The hidden bottom pins are even# and give the same result. If I had odd and even mixed up, standby (pin 16) would be Vamp_18v (pin15) which measured 12.6v.

                  I wrote these numbers down with the backlight,tcon, and main board(obviously) connected.

                  Odd that only pin 4 measures what the legend says it should. Everything else is over or under.

                  I'm attaching better photos of the powersupply. Maybe there is a visual clue as to what is going on.

                  Pardon the shoddy soldering, I saw one video saying to take the old stuff off and replace with new incase there was a crack.

                  Thank you
                  Attached Files

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                    #10
                    Re: Samsung UN55C6300

                    Pin..Legend.........Standby........Active
                    1.... D12.8v........... 0 ............. 17.25
                    2.....Ydry det......... 0............... 2.26
                    3.....D12.8V.............0.............17.25
                    4.....BLU_on/off.......5.18.......... 5.15
                    5......D12.8v..........0.08............5.12
                    6.....PWM_DIM.......0.08...........5.15
                    7.......GND............0.08...........5.16
                    8.....H_SYNC............0..............0
                    9.....GND.................0............. 0
                    10....GND.................0.............0
                    11....D3.3v..............0..............0
                    12....GND.............0.08.............1.2
                    13....D5.3v...............0.............12.65
                    14....D5.3v..............4...............0.45
                    15....Vamp_18v........0..............12.65
                    16....STBY_5.2v........0..............0.05
                    17....Vamp_18v..........0............12.65
                    18....PWR_on/off.........0..............0

                    "Double checked I was doing it right. "
                    Nope, you count them wrong! Look at the marking for pin 1!
                    The TRIANGLE marking is pin 1!
                    When DATA are wrong then I know it was not done right.
                    "1.... D12.8v........... 0 ............. 17.25"
                    Why do you think you are getting 17.25V on the pin that you think it is pin 1 D12.8V? it is NOT pin 1, it is pin 17! which is VAMP 18V and that is why you are getting 17.25V on that pin (it is not tightly regulated power supply).
                    And this one:
                    "17....Vamp_18v..........0............12.65"
                    See the pattern?
                    Use your logic.
                    I cannot help you solving the problem with wrong DATA, NO STBY 5.2V = NO MAIN BOARD FUNCTION so it is impossible for you to have 0V at STBY 5.2V.
                    By looking at the readings I can tell you that the STBY 5.2V is present.
                    May be some one else can help you instead since you insisted that you count the pins correctly.
                    Pictures provided by shopjimmy.
                    Attached Files
                    Last edited by budm; 12-23-2017, 09:11 PM.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      #11
                      Re: Samsung UN55C6300

                      Oh jeez...I was reading it upside down. I was thinking it was top to bottom, left to right like the chart beside it.
                      Ya I was wondering why was the 12v and 18v distinctions reversed.

                      Since thats the case then yes I do have standby power (pin16 was really 4).

                      Shows how little I know about this >.>

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                        #12
                        Re: Samsung UN55C6300

                        I have one of these 40"one, that it's keep clicking and I know that the main board is gone. They are to expensive and not worth it for me. Maybe for a 55", it is worth shelling out the money, if that is your problem.
                        When I have forced the backlight to turn on, it turned on.

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                          #13
                          Re: Samsung UN55C6300

                          Ya that seems similar to me. I just forced the backlight to come just now too. Funny though that I thought Samsungs make the backlight come on even without the main connected. Mine doesn't do that, I have to shove a wire between standby and power on.

                          Reading through this forum, I am under the impression that if it has anything to do with the main/tcon, it is best to do a total replacement. Is that because the size of the components is just too damn small to even attempt a repair, and or, you need special equipment?

                          Oddly, when following the service manual troubleshooting, all the voltages check out on the main board, up until it says check the tcon, where it gives me all zeroes.

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                            #14
                            Re: Samsung UN55C6300

                            There are a bunch of mainboard models that fit these TVs(check shopjimmy.com), but there are not to many around. Usually, they are over $100.

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