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  • xorium
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    • Nov 2017
    • 23
    • Netherlands

    #1

    Samsung tv no backlight

    Hello hope you guys can help me out. I have a samsung tv no backlight problem.
    I have power supply l40gf_ddy bn44-00666a.

    When i measure on cnl802 i dont have a voltage on pin 7 s3+.

    When i make a bridge from pin 1 to pin 7 the tv shows backlight.

    I replaced the power supply but still the same problem.

    What can the problem be?
  • dick_barton
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    • Aug 2015
    • 6642
    • Wales

    #2
    Re: Samsung tv no backlight

    Any photo's of the circuit boards?
    Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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    • xorium
      Member
      • Nov 2017
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      #3
      Re: Samsung tv no backlight

      I get on connector cnl802 when tv is on :
      Pin 1 214 - 215 volt
      Pin 2 214-215 volt
      Pin 3 184 volt
      Pin 4 184 volt
      Pin 5 0 volt
      Pin 6 0 volt
      Pin 7 0 volt
      Pin 8 0 volt
      Pin 9 0 volt

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      • xorium
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        • Nov 2017
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        #4
        Re: Samsung tv no backlight



        When i disconnect the connector i get only 214 volts on pin 1 and 2 the rest is 0 volts.
        Last edited by xorium; 11-15-2017, 04:09 PM.

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        • tvtimmy
          Badcaps Legend
          • Mar 2015
          • 1160
          • usa

          #5
          Re: Samsung tv no backlight

          Take a good look at the connector for a small burn mark on the cable going to the mainboard.

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Samsung tv no backlight

            Originally posted by xorium
            I get on connector cnl802 when tv is on :
            Pin 1 214 - 215 volt
            Pin 2 214-215 volt
            Pin 3 184 volt
            Pin 4 184 volt
            Pin 5 0 volt
            Pin 6 0 volt
            Pin 7 0 volt
            Pin 8 0 volt
            Pin 9 0 volt
            You have open circuit in the LED sting, that is why the Voltage went up to 215V.
            Pictures provided by shopjimmy.
            Attached Files
            Last edited by budm; 11-15-2017, 05:26 PM.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • xorium
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              • Nov 2017
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              #7
              Re: Samsung tv no backlight

              Originally posted by budm
              You have open circuit in the LED sting, that is why the Voltage went up to 215V.
              Pictures provided by shopjimmy.
              So how do i fix it? And is it save to make that bridge to make the tv working?
              Last edited by xorium; 11-16-2017, 01:22 AM.

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              • xorium
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                • Nov 2017
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                • Netherlands

                #8
                Re: Samsung tv no backlight

                Originally posted by tvtimmy
                Take a good look at the connector for a small burn mark on the cable going to the mainboard.
                Dont see any burn marks.

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Samsung tv no backlight

                  You will have to open up the LCD panel assembly to get to the LED assemblies, if you bypass the LED strings that have open circuits then you will burn up the power supply.
                  What is the LCD panel model number?
                  And what is the model number of the TV?
                  Always provide the model number when asking for help.
                  Last edited by budm; 11-16-2017, 10:03 AM.
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • xorium
                    Member
                    • Nov 2017
                    • 23
                    • Netherlands

                    #10
                    Re: Samsung tv no backlight

                    Originally posted by budm
                    You will have to open up the LCD panel assembly to get to the LED assemblies, if you bypass the LED strings that have open circuits then you will burn up the power supply.
                    What is the LCD panel model number?
                    And what is the model number of the TV?
                    Always provide the model number when asking for help.
                    The model number is:samsung ue40eh5300
                    And i didnt open de lcd panel yet.
                    But is see this sticker inside on the metal: cy-DF400BGLV1H.

                    Is it very hard to open a lcd panel? Never did it before.
                    I am not a noob to repairs is also repair phones,tablets,laptops and such.

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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Samsung tv no backlight

                      The strips look something like these:
                      https://www.mtvparts.com/product-pag...d3ge-400smb-r2
                      If you search 'cy-df400bglv1h' you will see lots of info.
                      It can be done VERY CAREFULLY, I do not have the instructions but you probably can find them on youtube.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • xorium
                        Member
                        • Nov 2017
                        • 23
                        • Netherlands

                        #12
                        Re: Samsung tv no backlight

                        Originally posted by budm
                        The strips look something like these:
                        https://www.mtvparts.com/product-pag...d3ge-400smb-r2
                        If you search 'cy-df400bglv1h' you will see lots of info.
                        It can be done VERY CAREFULLY, I do not have the instructions but you probably can find them on youtube.
                        When i open the panel how can i check the strips? If they are the problem?

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                        • xorium
                          Member
                          • Nov 2017
                          • 23
                          • Netherlands

                          #13
                          Re: Samsung tv no backlight

                          If i replace a strip do i need to replace all strips? Or only the faulty ones?

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                          • vinceroger69
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 6714
                            • uk

                            #14
                            Re: Samsung tv no backlight

                            This first video will show you how a tv is stripped down to get to the leds
                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rwLDxKgZIA
                            This video shows you how to test a led
                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEJoPCa7Kt0

                            you can just change the faulty led if you have a hot air station/soldering iron or just replace the whole strip there usually a part number printed on them.
                            Last edited by vinceroger69; 11-16-2017, 12:42 PM.

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                            • xorium
                              Member
                              • Nov 2017
                              • 23
                              • Netherlands

                              #15
                              Re: Samsung tv no backlight

                              How can i search for the leds that i can solder with hot air station?
                              And any idee if i open the lcd panel what the best way is to store the panel till i get te parts so no dust get on it?
                              Last edited by xorium; 11-16-2017, 02:13 PM.

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                              • xorium
                                Member
                                • Nov 2017
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                                • Netherlands

                                #16
                                Re: Samsung tv no backlight

                                Found 1 led burned. What leds fo i need to order 3 volt or 6 volt?

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                                • xorium
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                                  • Nov 2017
                                  • 23
                                  • Netherlands

                                  #17
                                  Re: Samsung tv no backlight

                                  I replaced all leds tv is working tnx for the help.

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                                  • vinceroger69
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Mar 2012
                                    • 6714
                                    • uk

                                    #18
                                    Re: Samsung tv no backlight

                                    Thanks for the update glad you managed to fix your set sorry i missed your last two posts i would of replied if i had seen them.

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                                    • shani
                                      Member
                                      • Nov 2017
                                      • 10
                                      • UK

                                      #19
                                      Re: Samsung tv no backlight

                                      Hi guys, I am having same problem, I managed to change the two leds on strip, I tested the led strip with led tester and all the led worked fine until i have connected with tv led connector and plug in the tv.... I hard the pop and same led blow up again .

                                      Tv comes on and i can see the picture with torch light but leds keep blowing up

                                      I have voltage only on 1 - D+ and 2 D+, When i switch the tv on voltage goes up to 221 the comes down to 218 on these two connections. I have no voltages on other pins.

                                      Last edited by shani; 09-09-2018, 12:00 PM.

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                                      • budm
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 40746
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: Samsung tv no backlight

                                        1) What is the specification of the replacement LED's?
                                        2) "I have voltage only on 1 - D+ and 2 D+, When i switch the tv on voltage goes up to 221 the comes down to 218 on these two connections. I have no voltages on other pins." That means the LED power supply output is not seeing the load. The LED+ is the output of the Voltahe boost converter circuit that feeds the Anode of the LED's strings, the LED - is the Cathode return of the LED string. The LED strings looks to be connected as one big LED string.
                                        3) What is the part number of this power supply board? BN44-?????
                                        4) We need straight shot pictures of the whole top and bottom side of the power supply board.
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                        Comment

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