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  • Wackyracer
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    • Mar 2015
    • 23
    • USA

    #1

    Element ELEFT436 will not power on

    This tv has the red light on. When I hit the power button nothing happens. All the caps look good. Want to make sure it is the main board and not something else before I order the part.

    What pins can I jump out to power it on?
  • dskall
    Badcaps Legend
    • Oct 2016
    • 2905
    • usa

    #2
    Re: Element ELEFT436 will not power on

    Need good clear straight on pictures of back of tv with cover off and each board.

    Need voltages from connector that goes from power supply board to main board. Will need pin#- PIN DESCRIPTION -Pin voltage in standby-Pin voltage when pushing power button and picture of connector on power supply board.
    Format:
    Pin# - Pin Description - Pin Voltage standby - Pin voltage power on
    1 - XXXXXXX - XXv - XXXv
    2 - XXXXXXX - XXXv - XXXv
    3 - XXXXXXX - XXXv - XXXv
    4 - etc.
    I assume no responsibility for any stupid suggestions I might post.

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    • Wackyracer
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      • Mar 2015
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      #3
      Re: Element ELEFT436 will not power on

      I will get pics tomorrow, but only 2 boards in the set, main/power and Tcon.

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      • Wackyracer
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        • Mar 2015
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        #4
        Re: Element ELEFT436 will not power on

        Pin-desc Stby - ON
        1- 5v - 5.18v - 5.18v
        2- RED - 1.766v - 1.766v (NO WIRE)
        3- GRN - .094V - .094V
        4- IR - 5.17V - 5.17V
        5- GRD - 0V - 0V
        6- K0/S- 3.28V - 0V
        7- K1/C+ - 3.28V - 0V
        8- K2/C- - 3.28V - 0V
        9- K3/V+ - 3.28V - 0V
        10-K4/V- - 3.28V - 0V
        11-K5/M - 3.25V - 0V
        12-K6/P - 3.27V - 0V
        13-K7/N - 0V - 0V
        14-GRD - 3.28V - 0V

        Pictures attached
        Attached Files
        Last edited by Wackyracer; 08-09-2017, 10:34 AM.

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        • dick_barton
          Badcaps Legend
          • Aug 2015
          • 6642
          • Wales

          #5
          Re: Element ELEFT436 will not power on

          There are some voltages given top and bottom of the board 5V, 12V and perhaps some others. Have you checked that they are present.
          Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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          • Wackyracer
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            • Mar 2015
            • 23
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            #6
            Re: Element ELEFT436 will not power on

            Originally posted by dick_barton
            There are some voltages given top and bottom of the board 5V, 12V and perhaps some others. Have you checked that they are present.
            The only thing I can see is a port that says "power Upgrade" and it has 12v at it.

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            • dick_barton
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              • Aug 2015
              • 6642
              • Wales

              #7
              Re: Element ELEFT436 will not power on

              And is there 12V on it? There's also a 5V marker there too on the bottom board.
              Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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              • Wackyracer
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                • Mar 2015
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                #8
                Re: Element ELEFT436 will not power on

                Originally posted by dick_barton
                And is there 12V on it? There's also a 5V marker there too on the bottom board.
                Yes there is 12v, I failed to see anything marked 5v to test, But did have a 5v reading if you look at the chart.

                I also attached pics of the front and back of the board. Tell me where to test and I will.
                Attached Files

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                • dick_barton
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Aug 2015
                  • 6642
                  • Wales

                  #9
                  Re: Element ELEFT436 will not power on

                  There are two voltage regulators that I can see on the top of the board. If you can measure the voltages on the 3 pins and report back.

                  There's a 3.3V point and a 5V point on the underneath side of the board and a marking for F2 (normally denotes a fuse) which I cannot see but it could be a fuse within the transformer.
                  Attached Files
                  Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                  • Wackyracer
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                    • Mar 2015
                    • 23
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                    #10
                    Re: Element ELEFT436 will not power on

                    Originally posted by dick_barton
                    There are two voltage regulators that I can see on the top of the board. If you can measure the voltages on the 3 pins and report back.

                    There's a 3.3V point and a 5V point on the underneath side of the board and a marking for F2 (normally denotes a fuse) which I cannot see but it could be a fuse within the transformer.
                    On the top at the voltage regulator to chassis grd....5.19v, 3.28v, 0V

                    On the bottom we have 5.28v and 3.28v

                    Fuse is good, it is on the top (I think it is a fuse and under the 2 diodes).
                    Last edited by Wackyracer; 08-09-2017, 06:07 PM.

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                    • Wackyracer
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                      • Mar 2015
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                      #11
                      Re: Element ELEFT436 will not power on

                      The second voltage regulator on the top, (near the 2 long connectors) measure 5.20v, 1.8v and 0
                      Last edited by Wackyracer; 08-09-2017, 05:55 PM.

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                      • dskall
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Oct 2016
                        • 2905
                        • usa

                        #12
                        Re: Element ELEFT436 will not power on

                        Since it is all one board. I think the only thing you need to worry about is if your power button or remote is sending signal to board.
                        I assume no responsibility for any stupid suggestions I might post.

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                        • Wackyracer
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                          • Mar 2015
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                          #13
                          Re: Element ELEFT436 will not power on

                          Originally posted by dskall
                          Since it is all one board. I think the only thing you need to worry about is if your power button or remote is sending signal to board.
                          Not really, it could be bad led back lights putting the TV into protection mode.

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                          • dskall
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Oct 2016
                            • 2905
                            • usa

                            #14
                            Re: Element ELEFT436 will not power on

                            Well if you press power button and nothing happens likely not backlights
                            I assume no responsibility for any stupid suggestions I might post.

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                            • budm
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 40746
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: Element ELEFT436 will not power on

                              Put the two probes of your meter to tow legs of the cap EB802 and take the DCV reading before the power switch is activated and after the power switch is activated.
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                              • Wackyracer
                                Member
                                • Mar 2015
                                • 23
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: Element ELEFT436 will not power on

                                Originally posted by budm
                                Put the two probes of your meter to tow legs of the cap EB802 and take the DCV reading before the power switch is activated and after the power switch is activated.
                                58.6v both ways.

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                                • dick_barton
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Aug 2015
                                  • 6642
                                  • Wales

                                  #17
                                  Re: Element ELEFT436 will not power on

                                  Can you do the same check on EB1, the large capacitor.
                                  Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                                  • Wackyracer
                                    Member
                                    • Mar 2015
                                    • 23
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: Element ELEFT436 will not power on

                                    Originally posted by dick_barton
                                    Can you do the same check on EB1, the large capacitor.
                                    162v both ways

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                                    • budm
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Feb 2010
                                      • 40746
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: Element ELEFT436 will not power on

                                      That power supply is an always on power supply. It has only one power transformer for all the power supply and it is running otherwise you will not have any DC on the cold side.
                                      Cap EB802 looks to be the filter cap for the Voltage boost converter for the LED backlights,
                                      I expect it to be higher than 58V so the BL-ON may not be present.
                                      There EEPROM and board kits for the TV.
                                      http://www.shopjimmy.com/catalogsear...ement+ELEFT436
                                      Last edited by budm; 08-11-2017, 02:09 PM.
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                      • Wackyracer
                                        Member
                                        • Mar 2015
                                        • 23
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: Element ELEFT436 will not power on

                                        Originally posted by budm
                                        That power supply is an always on power supply. It has only one power transformer for all the power supply and it is running otherwise you will not have any DC on the cold side.
                                        Cap EB802 looks to be the filter cap for the Voltage boost converter for the LED backlights,
                                        I expect it to be higher than 58V so the BL-ON may not be present.
                                        There EEPROM and board kits for the TV.
                                        http://www.shopjimmy.com/catalogsear...ement+ELEFT436
                                        Thanks ...so you think it is the main board? I already know about the shopjimmy boards and eeprom.

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