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  • vtyler84
    New Member
    • Jul 2017
    • 6
    • CAN

    #1

    LG 50PA4500 - Sound no Picture

    I got my hands on a free plasma TV and am trying to figure out why I have no picture but sound (fuzzy sound, nothing's plugged in).

    Only test I've done so far after reading on this forum is I unplugged the top buffer board. When I did that the bottom half of the screen lit up grey for a second before dimming. I plugged it back in did the same test with the bottom board and the screen stayed all black.

    Does this mean my buffer board needs to be replaced. I was going to test it until I realized my multi meter doesn't have a continuity setting, unless someone can tell me how to do it without that setting?

    Another common problem I read with these tv's is with the power board and a bad capacitor. I bought some capacitors before I found out that there was sound so I've kind of ruled out the capacitor being an issue now with sound...

    Thanks!

    Tyler
  • maxvalutech
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Dec 2014
    • 804
    • australia

    #2
    Re: LG 50PA4500 - Sound no Picture

    Tyler if you want some assistance please read the stickies on latest page and then test all the important voltages on the power board connector/s with set in standby and at switch on and put those in a post complete with good pics of the whole board setup and individually. Test sound etc with a proper signal connected.

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    • vtyler84
      New Member
      • Jul 2017
      • 6
      • CAN

      #3
      Re: LG 50PA4500 - Sound no Picture

      Update.
      Finally got the TV home and can work on it now in the evenings.
      Attached are the pictures of the back of the TV.

      Doesn't look like there are any bad caps etc.

      Did some power tests.
      Va: 55V
      Vs: 205V
      Vy, Vsc were jumping all over the place. I was using dc and testing across the resistor? Any other tests that need to be done?



      Thanks. Any help would be appreciated.
      Attached Files

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      • tom66
        EVs Rule
        • Apr 2011
        • 32560
        • UK

        #4
        Re: LG 50PA4500 - Sound no Picture

        Test -Vy and Vsc with the top board disocnnected.

        With the panel on and top disconnected, press MENU or other keys and see if the bottom half works.
        Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
        For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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        • vtyler84
          New Member
          • Jul 2017
          • 6
          • CAN

          #5
          Re: LG 50PA4500 - Sound no Picture

          Disconnected top buffer board from the y-sustain board, my reading wasn't stable jumping all over the place.

          Tried to get a picture on the lower half by pushing the settings button but nothing changed. Bottom half still a faint gray colour, with a solid black line about 1 inch from the bottom and 1 pixel thick or so. I'll try with a dvd player and try to change the inputs but need to find a spare HDMI cable first.

          I am assuming I need to leave the buffer board attached to the screen? ie orange cables?

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          • vtyler84
            New Member
            • Jul 2017
            • 6
            • CAN

            #6
            Re: LG 50PA4500 - Sound no Picture

            Tried my DVD player with HDMI. Because I can't see what I am doing not sure if I got it to go to the HDMI input. In either case nothing changed on the screen. Just a dimly light bottom half of the screen when the upper buffer board was unplugged.

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            • tom66
              EVs Rule
              • Apr 2011
              • 32560
              • UK

              #7
              Re: LG 50PA4500 - Sound no Picture

              OK, try unplugging both buffer boards; are the readings on -Vy and Vsc stable now?
              Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
              For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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              • vtyler84
                New Member
                • Jul 2017
                • 6
                • CAN

                #8
                Re: LG 50PA4500 - Sound no Picture

                Unplugged both buffer boards from the sustain board and the readings are still all over the place.

                To be clear I'm measuring in DC Volts? Across the resistor correct?
                See attached picture.
                White Arrows for VY
                Red Arrows for VSC.
                Attached Files

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                • tom66
                  EVs Rule
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 32560
                  • UK

                  #9
                  Re: LG 50PA4500 - Sound no Picture

                  Yes, this is correct.

                  In which case, you probably have a defective Y-sustain.

                  It is probably worth testing the Y-buffer board first. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51SZsfH60EY
                  Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                  For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                  • deegee2016
                    Member
                    • Apr 2016
                    • 11
                    • england

                    #10
                    Re: LG 50PA4500 - Sound no Picture

                    I have an LG47ODUE that shows LG Logo then goes black under torchlight image is visible.


                    Power supply board tests:

                    Standby voltages: in order on connector:

                    9) Ground - Ground = 0.0v
                    8) 12v - NC = 11.95v
                    7) 12v - 12v = 11.95v
                    6) Ground - Ground = 0.0v
                    5) 24v - 24v = 24.77v
                    4) Ground - Ground = 0.0v
                    3) 3.5v - PDIM2 = 3.54v
                    2) 3.5v - PDIM1 = 3.55v
                    1) PwrOn - DrvOn = 3.42v

                    Most voltages not present until standby button is pressed

                    Led Connector Tests:

                    106v down to 82.2v at led connector on both lines. LEDs connected

                    115v down to 82.2v at led connector on both lines. LEDs disconnected.

                    Diode Side Test: (red probe to cathode side and black to test points at led connector)

                    97v and decreases - cathode side of diode to test point at led connector.

                    LEDs have been checked out of the unit on a DC power supply two strips at 30v all LEDs work.

                    Work has been carried out previously as jumpers on led strips. Work fine out of unit on DCPS.

                    I had image but no backlight.

                    Could this be a caps issue???

                    Does the TV need all LEDs connected to work correctly (ie) cut out if not enough LEDs for load.

                    Obviously 88.2v is not enough to drive the leds
                    Kind regards Dee

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                    • dick_barton
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Aug 2015
                      • 6642
                      • Wales

                      #11
                      Re: LG 50PA4500 - Sound no Picture

                      Originally posted by deegee2016
                      I have an LG47ODUE that shows LG Logo then goes black under torchlight image is visible.

                      Hello Dee,
                      Your better off starting a new thread or it becomes quite confusing dealing with two sets in one thread.

                      Edit.
                      Is that the correct model number?
                      Last edited by dick_barton; 09-22-2017, 05:18 AM.
                      Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: LG 50PA4500 - Sound no Picture

                        https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=64716
                        https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=64714
                        Posting at multiple thread is not going help, especially if your model number does not match the OP of the tread.
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • deegee2016
                          Member
                          • Apr 2016
                          • 11
                          • england

                          #13
                          Re: LG 50PA4500 - Sound no Picture

                          Sorry ppl, I was having trouble posting. Noted

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                          • tom66
                            EVs Rule
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 32560
                            • UK

                            #14
                            Re: LG 50PA4500 - Sound no Picture

                            Originally posted by deegee2016
                            Sorry ppl, I was having trouble posting. Noted
                            If you read the PM that is sent to every new user it tells you that you need to post a reply in the "introduce yourself" thread before you can post. Basically you need 1 post before you can create threads. Stops the majority of spambots.
                            Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                            For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                            • Niemannc
                              New Member
                              • Jun 2018
                              • 3
                              • South africa

                              #15
                              Re: LG 50PA4500 - Sound no Picture

                              Hi guys. Can anyone help me with this same tv

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                              • Andrew F. Ali
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Jan 2014
                                • 2450
                                • Trinidad & Tobago

                                #16
                                Re: LG 50PA4500 - Sound no Picture

                                Originally posted by Niemannc
                                Hi guys. Can anyone help me with this same tv
                                Maybe we could if we knew what is the issue with your TV. You would get better responses if you started a new thread for your TV and issue.

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