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  • nalle077
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 102

    #1

    LG 50pc1r-zh Flickering

    Hello experts
    I have a LG 50pc1r-zh which is flickering when turn on.
    I replaced 9 3300mf capacitors and 1 1000mf capacitor.
    I did not try it befor I changed them as I got it from a friend and I knew it did not work.
    Anyway It turns on and I hear clicking sound and the screen is flickering.
    It is exactly the same as this video
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJochQbgncQ
    I saw that he also wrote that he replaced capacitors and had the same issue afterwards.
    He did not write back if he fixed it or not.
    It seems to be the ysus board, but how can I be sure? and is not the ysus board fixable? what goes bad with it?
    I want to know for sure when I change things and I want to know what is bad so that I learn something to
  • mmartell
    Badcaps Legend
    • Oct 2013
    • 3189
    • Canada

    #2
    Re: LG 50pc1r-zh Flickering

    IPM failure most likely.

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    • nalle077
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 102

      #3
      Re: LG 50pc1r-zh Flickering

      Originally posted by mmartell
      IPM failure most likely.
      How to diagnose it?

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      • Hamie
        Badcaps Legend
        • Apr 2014
        • 1383
        • UK

        #4
        Re: LG 50pc1r-zh Flickering

        Is the ysus making a ticking noise?

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        • nalle077
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 102

          #5
          Re: LG 50pc1r-zh Flickering

          Originally posted by Hamie
          Is the ysus making a ticking noise?
          Yes it does.

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          • Hamie
            Badcaps Legend
            • Apr 2014
            • 1383
            • UK

            #6
            Re: LG 50pc1r-zh Flickering

            Flip the ysus upsidedown.
            The pin in outs are labelled. But your black probe on the pin marked Gnd. And test the outputs. Sus out etc. See if any are shorted.

            Either way that ticking noise is usually the sign that one has failed.

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            • nalle077
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2009
              • 102

              #7
              Re: LG 50pc1r-zh Flickering

              Originally posted by Hamie
              Flip the ysus upsidedown.
              The pin in outs are labelled. But your black probe on the pin marked Gnd. And test the outputs. Sus out etc. See if any are shorted.

              Either way that ticking noise is usually the sign that one has failed.
              On IC201 there is no shorts.
              On IC202 there is short between gnd and NC
              also between gnd and all pinblock named CH
              Attached Files

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              • nalle077
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2009
                • 102

                #8
                Re: LG 50pc1r-zh Flickering

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                • nalle077
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 102

                  #9
                  Re: LG 50pc1r-zh Flickering

                  Originally posted by nalle077
                  Up>
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                  • nalle077
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 102

                    #10
                    Re: LG 50pc1r-zh Flickering

                    Originally posted by nalle077
                    up
                    Anyone with an answer? Is both the IPM on ysus the same? I have read that you should change both to get the same revision

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                    • attainteddragon
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 764
                      • australia

                      #11
                      Re: LG 50pc1r-zh Flickering

                      all ipm's are the same on x and y boards.
                      unfortunately i don't have any here with that pin out to get comparative readings for you.
                      WHY CAN'T PHILIPS USE PHILLIPS HEAD SCREWS?

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                      • nalle077
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 102

                        #12
                        Re: LG 50pc1r-zh Flickering

                        Originally posted by attainteddragon
                        all ipm's are the same on x and y boards.
                        unfortunately i don't have any here with that pin out to get comparative readings for you.
                        I bought 2 of them now, so I will change both of the Ysus IPM.
                        Wish me luck
                        I will get back with the result when I have reseived and changed them.

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                        • attainteddragon
                          Badcaps Veteran
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 764
                          • australia

                          #13
                          Re: LG 50pc1r-zh Flickering

                          you could of compared the ipm's from the y to the x board. hope it fixes your set though.
                          WHY CAN'T PHILIPS USE PHILLIPS HEAD SCREWS?

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                          • nalle077
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 102

                            #14
                            Re: LG 50pc1r-zh Flickering

                            Originally posted by attainteddragon
                            you could of compared the ipm's from the y to the x board. hope it fixes your set though.
                            I do not understand this? Please explain. I bought both IPM for ysus board. Ysus IPM and ER IPM. I read that you should change both IPM so that they have the Sam revision. And they were not expansive.
                            And I read that it is an easy job

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                            • cliff_hootarski
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 411
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: LG 50pc1r-zh Flickering

                              "Easy job" with the right tools! I use a Hakko 808 desoldering gun and still have difficulty removing them at times. The Ysus are multi-layered boards that disperse heat as well as the IPM's heatsink.

                              I usually add leaded solder to the IPM's pins, then heat up the bottom (pin side) with a heat gun, and then use the Hakko to suck out the solder from the pins.

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                              • nalle077
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 102

                                #16
                                Re: LG 50pc1r-zh Flickering

                                Originally posted by cliff_hootarski
                                "Easy job" with the right tools! I use a Hakko 808 desoldering gun and still have difficulty removing them at times. The Ysus are multi-layered boards that disperse heat as well as the IPM's heatsink.

                                I usually add leaded solder to the IPM's pins, then heat up the bottom (pin side) with a heat gun, and then use the Hakko to suck out the solder from the pins.
                                That was why it was a whisteling smiley.
                                I know it is a hard job . I have done it ones before and that tv did not work after I did it, but I think something else was wrong with it.
                                I think I will try to cut the pins with some small tool

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                                • nalle077
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Mar 2009
                                  • 102

                                  #17
                                  Re: LG 50pc1r-zh Flickering

                                  Hello again. Desoldering is done. But here comes maby a stupid question. Is the er-ipm the same as the sus-ipm? Because I desoldered both of them thinking that it should change both of the as I have read you should change both Ipm the same time. Now I believe that this ment the ysus and zsus ipm. Should I solder the er-ipm again?
                                  Last edited by nalle077; 08-08-2017, 10:11 AM.

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                                  • nalle077
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Mar 2009
                                    • 102

                                    #18
                                    Re: LG 50pc1r-zh Flickering

                                    Originally posted by nalle077
                                    hello again. Desoldering is done. But here comes maby a stupid question. Is the er-ipm the same as the sus-ipm? Because i desoldered both of them thinking that it should change both of the as i have read you should change both ipm the same time. Now i believe that this ment the ysus and zsus ipm. Should i solder the er-ipm again?
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                                    • nalle077
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Mar 2009
                                      • 102

                                      #19
                                      Re: LG 50pc1r-zh Flickering

                                      Originally posted by nalle077
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                                      Anyone with an answer?

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                                      • dskall
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Oct 2016
                                        • 2905
                                        • usa

                                        #20
                                        Re: LG 50pc1r-zh Flickering

                                        No expert but I believe the x and y are the same and should both be changed. Check part numbers
                                        I assume no responsibility for any stupid suggestions I might post.

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