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  • rmoody
    Learning Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 262

    #1

    Need help finding IC PLEASE!!

    Hey guys, been a while since I've been here but I have a Hitachi 42" tv here that I'm not getting standby voltage on. I found a chip on the board that that was cracked and I believe this may be my issue. From what I found on another post on here, this chip controls the standby voltage and PS_On voltage. The numbers on the chip are ICE380565

    TV Model: Hitachi L42N03A
    PS board : JSK4267-022C
  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Need help finding IC PLEASE!!

    That IC is commonly used in standby power supply section, you should be able to buy that IC on Digikey, Mouser, or EBAY.
    ICE3B0565
    PS-ON is generated by the MAIN board.
    You should upload good clear pictures of the board so we can see what we are dealing with.
    Attached Files
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • rmoody
      Learning Member
      • Jul 2011
      • 262

      #3
      Re: Need help finding IC PLEASE!!

      Thanks, Bud. The chip was cracked across the top of the "B" and I thought it was an 8. Hard to see this shit without a magnifying glass! I believe you were the one who mentioned this chip was the 5v supply on the other post I found. I'll look for a replacement chip.
      Oh and i'll get pics when I go outside and get my camera.

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      • rmoody
        Learning Member
        • Jul 2011
        • 262

        #4
        Re: Need help finding IC PLEASE!!

        Bud, is there a way to test the IC with a DMM?

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        • budm
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 40746
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Need help finding IC PLEASE!!

          If the top is crack then there is no need to try to test it, what you need to find out if there is any fusible resistor used for feeding the B+ to run that IC or not.
          Right now we need good clear straight shot pictures of the TOP and BOTTOM side of that power supply board.
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          • rmoody
            Learning Member
            • Jul 2011
            • 262

            #6
            Re: Need help finding IC PLEASE!!

            I have uploaded pics of the board and the Infineon datasheet as well.
            Attached Files

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            • rmoody
              Learning Member
              • Jul 2011
              • 262

              #7
              Re: Need help finding IC PLEASE!!

              Are there any consumer stores left in the U.S. that sells components or is everything basically order online? I have a Fry's a couple hours away but I don't want to drive there unless I know they have it.

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              • rmoody
                Learning Member
                • Jul 2011
                • 262

                #8
                Re: Need help finding IC PLEASE!!

                So, You got me thinking about the resistor now. I checked the resistor in the attachment below and found it open. According to digi-key resistor calculator, it should have 1.2 Ohms. The resistor seems to have been very hot and some of the ceramic has fallen off. Is it possible this is the root cause or am I chasing my tail here?
                Attached Files

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                • rmoody
                  Learning Member
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 262

                  #9
                  Re: Need help finding IC PLEASE!!

                  This resistor traces to pin 3 (Current Sense Pin) on the SMPS. This pin on the SMPS appears to have suffered the most heat damage.

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Need help finding IC PLEASE!!

                    Originally posted by rmoody
                    This resistor traces to pin 3 (Current Sense Pin) on the SMPS. This pin on the SMPS appears to have suffered the most heat damage.
                    When the MOSFET inside that IC shorted out, it will take out that current sensing resistor with it too.
                    That resistor is 1.2 Ohm 5% flame proof resistor.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • rmoody
                      Learning Member
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 262

                      #11
                      Re: Need help finding IC PLEASE!!

                      Originally posted by budm
                      When the MOSFET inside that IC shorted out, it will take out that current sensing resistor with it too.
                      That resistor is 1.2 Ohm 5% flame proof resistor.
                      Okay, I'll search for a resistor as well. Any clue on wattage? I looked earlier and was seeing 1w,2w, and 3w.

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Need help finding IC PLEASE!!

                        Originally posted by rmoody
                        Okay, I'll search for a resistor as well. Any clue on wattage? I looked earlier and was seeing 1w,2w, and 3w.
                        You have to check the dimensions and compare it to the spec of the resistor you found on the web, it looks like 1W.
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                        Comment

                        • rmoody
                          Learning Member
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 262

                          #13
                          Re: Need help finding IC PLEASE!!

                          Thanks. I actually filtered it down earlier on mouser.com to a 2 watt. Got my order in, hopefully they will ship fairly quick. I'm only 160 miles from the factory right now.

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                          • rmoody
                            Learning Member
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 262

                            #14
                            Re: Need help finding IC PLEASE!!

                            Bud, Parts arrived and installed. My only question is, is it necessary to replace the rubbery silicone material over the leads? Will it arc if I don't? If necessary, what is this material?

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                            • budm
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 40746
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: Need help finding IC PLEASE!!

                              Electronics grade RTV Silicone. You can run the test just to see if the problem is fixed first.
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                              Comment

                              • rmoody
                                Learning Member
                                • Jul 2011
                                • 262

                                #16
                                Re: Need help finding IC PLEASE!!

                                Originally posted by budm
                                Electronics grade RTV Silicone. You can run the test just to see if the problem is fixed first.
                                You the MAN, Bud! Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge.
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