Panasonic Plasma TC-P42UT50 flickering during warm up (also shutdown 7 blinks)

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  • lfcastilhos
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    • Jan 2017
    • 6
    • Brasil

    #1

    Panasonic Plasma TC-P42UT50 flickering during warm up (also shutdown 7 blinks)

    Hello,

    When I power on the TV, after almost 1 minute (between 50 to 80 seconds) the image flickering and disappear for a while (1 to 2 seconds), sometimes the TV shutdown and front LED blink 7 times.

    When the TV recover from flickering it works perfect for hours.
    The issue happens when the TV is off for more than 5 minutes, it means when the TV is cold and caps are discharged.

    I bought SS and YSUS boards from a guy who broken the TV, 2012 Plasma troubleshoot guide says 7 blinks could be and issue with SU/SD, SC and SS boards, I replaced both with no lucky.
    SU,SD and SC are integrated into a single YSUS board, both YSUS and SS green LEDs flickering when the issue happens, looks like power outage or surge.

    I'm wondering it's an issue with Panel or Logic A Board.
    For me it looks like a bad cap that discharge when it's warming up.
    I'm ordering a power supply to test.

    Need help to troubleshoot!
  • ReeceyBurger123
    Never Give Up !
    • May 2014
    • 7325
    • Britain

    #2
    Re: Panasonic Plasma TC-P42UT50 flickering during warm up (also shutdown 7 blinks)

    Why you replacing stuff with no diagnoses ? This set suffers with bga issues on the A board which also drives the panel.
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    • lfcastilhos
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      • Jan 2017
      • 6
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      #3
      Re: Panasonic Plasma TC-P42UT50 flickering during warm up (also shutdown 7 blinks)

      I've tried some initial troubleshooting with no luck.
      So I found used SS and YSUS with a good price and I decide to try replacing those parts cause those are the most probably cause for 7 blinks.

      I beleive it is probably a energy surge or discharge coming from one of those boards or power supply.

      How can I troubleshoot BGA issue on A board? And why it happens every time at the same time? Not intermittent.

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      • lfcastilhos
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        • Jan 2017
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        #4
        Re: Panasonic Plasma TC-P42UT50 flickering during warm up (also shutdown 7 blinks)

        ReeceyBurger,

        I've worked again and all boards looks fine, VSUS, 15V, 5V, Vad, all looks fine (except main board).
        I think you were right, I don't have right tools to troubleshoot BGA so I tried to keep one chip cold using a ice cube water inside a plastic bag (I know that looks weird).

        I kept the ice on one chip during 3 minutes and TV works , when I remove the ice, after 1 minute the issue happens again.
        I tried again and kept the ice during 5 minutes, again the TV works fine when the chip is cold, when I remove the ice, again after 1 minute the issue happens.

        So, looks like the problem is the BGA on main board, my nightmare now is how can I fix that, the board is almost impossible to find in my country ( I can't import cause digital TV tuner is not the same), in house reflow looks like a bad solution, reballing is expensive and no guarantee it fix the issue.

        What would you do?
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        • ReeceyBurger123
          Never Give Up !
          • May 2014
          • 7325
          • Britain

          #5
          Re: Panasonic Plasma TC-P42UT50 flickering during warm up (also shutdown 7 blinks)

          Ahh its the screen controller Ic, grrrr panasonic really piss me off why they didn't heatsink it I will never know Also either change the Mb and on a replacement add a heatsink to that chip or give it a reflow and then add a heatsink after wards.
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          • vinceroger69
            Badcaps Legend
            • Mar 2012
            • 6714
            • uk

            #6
            Re: Panasonic Plasma TC-P42UT50 flickering during warm up (also shutdown 7 blinks)

            a reball is the best answer but a lot of people have had lasting repairs with a diy refow using flux. Im typing on a laptop i reflowed about 3 years ago and is still working fine, i guess its how the reflow done ive known people to verheat ics and make them worse even if you get a replacement mainboard in a short time you may have the same issue, if this was my tv i would do a reflow and add a fan.have you a shop etc you can use and get a proper reflow done using a bottom heater etc.

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            • lfcastilhos
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              • Jan 2017
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              #7
              Re: Panasonic Plasma TC-P42UT50 flickering during warm up (also shutdown 7 blinks)

              Thank you guys, I think I'll look for a reball or reflow service while I look for a new board.
              I'm afraid to reflow using a heat gun air and bottom heater is also a problem cause there are some very tiny components under the chip (board).
              I'll also buy a decent heatsink

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