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  • WHaThEFLuX
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    • Feb 2015
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    #21
    Re: Samsung PN50B650S1F sound but no picture

    bump
    "You can only learn so much doing simple recapping and fixes. Ideally you want a really hard one to fix where you end up with a lot of dead ends and frustration. Then, and only then, do you learn how things really work."

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    • WHaThEFLuX
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      #22
      Re: Samsung PN50B650S1F sound but no picture

      Anyone get a chance to look at those videos?
      "You can only learn so much doing simple recapping and fixes. Ideally you want a really hard one to fix where you end up with a lot of dead ends and frustration. Then, and only then, do you learn how things really work."

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      • ReeceyBurger123
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        #23
        Re: Samsung PN50B650S1F sound but no picture

        Look exactly like sustain voltage loss, has the Ymain arrived ?
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        • WHaThEFLuX
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          #24
          Re: Samsung PN50B650S1F sound but no picture

          Should be here tomorrow, the postal service has been a mess since it's so close to the holidays.

          As much as I'll be relieved if the "new" Ysus repairs the set, I'd really love to know what's wrong with the original, I might have to cross check all the components to see if I can find anything, my curiosity always gets the best of me!
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          • WHaThEFLuX
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            #25
            Re: Samsung PN50B650S1F sound but no picture

            Well now I know why I couldn't find anything wrong with the original Ysus, there's nothing wrong with it! The supposedly "good" board I got in the mail today did the exact same thing as the original, which means I've received a faulty board which I highly doubt, or I've set my sights on the wrong problem.

            Not sure where to go from here but I'm assuming it means throwing an Xsus at it and then most likely a Y buffer?
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            • WHaThEFLuX
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              #26
              Re: Samsung PN50B650S1F sound but no picture

              Question, if the Xsus IS the problem would removing it and testing the Ysus give me steady voltage at VSCAN?








              EDIT: Guess not, with the Xsus removed I'm still getting erratic voltage at VSCAN, only about 100V less.
              Last edited by WHaThEFLuX; 12-23-2016, 09:53 AM.
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              • ReeceyBurger123
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                #27
                Re: Samsung PN50B650S1F sound but no picture

                What about with the buffer out does Vsc go higher than 100v ?
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                • WHaThEFLuX
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                  #28
                  Re: Samsung PN50B650S1F sound but no picture

                  I'll test that now, you want the X out and the buffer out or just the buffer?
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                  • WHaThEFLuX
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                    #29
                    Re: Samsung PN50B650S1F sound but no picture

                    OK finally! With the "new" Ysus board in the set and everything else connected except for the buffer, VSCAN is at a steady 200V!

                    I just realized that after replacing the ICs on the original board I never checked it with the buffer removed!

                    So now I'll put the original back in with the buffer removed, if it all checks out I'll return the Ysus I just received and get a working buffer, if not I'll just order the damn buffer and be done with it.

                    I guess with everything getting hectic for the holidays my diagnostic skills took a back seat!
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                    • ReeceyBurger123
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                      #30
                      Re: Samsung PN50B650S1F sound but no picture

                      Lol it happens, I thought you said you checked it or I read it wrong which is probably the case. Hopefully you can sort it. Though good to keep a Ysus on hand and Ive had these blow up as I said and they are a pain. Also if a buffer does sort it I suggest you add heatsinks with thermal silicon to the chips on the replacement buffer.
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                      • WHaThEFLuX
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                        #31
                        Re: Samsung PN50B650S1F sound but no picture

                        I believe after I replaced the chip I just connected everything back up to test and hoped for the best.

                        I will definitely do that, how does one go about adding the heatsinks? Pull them from another board? If you could go into a little more detail about the procedure that'd be great!
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                        • ReeceyBurger123
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                          #32
                          Re: Samsung PN50B650S1F sound but no picture

                          Also order some small ram heatsinks and thermal plaster to put them on. You might need to trim the glue around the scan Ic. Also make sure to get ram heatsinks with no thermal tape on as that stuff is rubbish.
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                          • WHaThEFLuX
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                            #33
                            Re: Samsung PN50B650S1F sound but no picture

                            Hope everyone is enjoying the holidays!


                            While I'm waiting for the buffer to arrive, another relative heard I was fixing this set and showed me his:





                            Is there any chance that this ISN'T the panel? Like tab bonds, loose ribbon, etc. Please someone tell me it's the panel so I don't have to have another 50" sitting in my house, I'm afraid if I keep acquiring sets my floor will collapse!
                            Last edited by WHaThEFLuX; 12-28-2016, 09:28 PM.
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                            • ReeceyBurger123
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                              #34
                              Re: Samsung PN50B650S1F sound but no picture

                              No, panel is dead. Single lines never fixable.
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                              • WHaThEFLuX
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                                #35
                                Re: Samsung PN50B650S1F sound but no picture

                                So after receiving the Y buffer from across the pond, I installed it in the set along with the good tested Ysus and it fired right up!

                                In hindsight, if I would have just tested the original Ysus after repairing it without the buffer in, I would have realized that the IC Reecey mentioned was the only failed component on the board and reused it. Reecey, you were spot on!

                                I'd also like to mention that Tom was correct as well, if I would have tested OUTH(which I just realized was on the Y buffer), I would have discovered that the buffer was faulty.

                                Here's a pic of the boards installed with the heatsinks attached, hopefully they'll keep the buffer alive for a long time!



                                Big thanks to Reecey and Tom, you guys are top notch!
                                Last edited by WHaThEFLuX; 01-09-2017, 01:16 PM.
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                                • ReeceyBurger123
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                                  #36
                                  Re: Samsung PN50B650S1F sound but no picture

                                  Awesome work, too bad I forgot to ask you to retest it with removed buffer. Ahh well you have a spare Ysus for when that one blows its self to pieces ehy and that bufer should only fail if the Ysus blows it with them heatsinks on lol good job
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                                  • WHaThEFLuX
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                                    #37
                                    Re: Samsung PN50B650S1F sound but no picture

                                    Couldn't have done it without you man, thanks again!
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