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  • takisp
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    • Dec 2015
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    #1

    SAMSUNG LE40C530F1W no picture with sound

    Hello there i am having a problem with my samsung tv

    The problem is the same with this one
    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...ht=bn44-00340b

    I think i found the problem but i dont know how to fix it

    Originally posted by budm
    The inverter circuits of this board does not run off the 24V power supply, it runs off the PFC Voltage booster which is >360VDC, the main inverter is on the power supply board, the board connected to the lamp is the balancer board.
    You need to find out if you do have >360VDC on the fuse (tested good per your post) in the middle of the board, use the negative leg of the main filter cap as the ground ref. point.
    I did the test budm said i am counting only 305v at the middle fuse


    AC line voltage at greece is 230V

    How can i fix this ?
    Thank you
    Last edited by takisp; 12-23-2015, 10:28 AM. Reason: 230V AC line voltage
  • budm
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    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
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    #2
    Re: SAMSUNG LE40C530F1W no picture with sound

    If your line AC Voltage is 230 VDC, then the DCV between the two legs of the main filter cap should be around 330VDC when TV is in stand by mode, and when the TV is turned on then the DCV should jump up to be > 360 VDC (usually will be closed to 400 VDC).
    305 VDC does not look right at all. You should verify that your meter is OK.
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
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    TV Factory reset codes listing:
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    • takisp
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      • Dec 2015
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      #3
      Re: SAMSUNG LE40C530F1W no picture with sound

      thank you for your reply i will try to find a new meter and try again !

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      • takisp
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        • Dec 2015
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        #4
        Re: SAMSUNG LE40C530F1W no picture with sound

        i tried again with a new meter and it looks wierd again!

        standby i have 322v and when i turn on the tv it goes a little bit down to 317v

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        • takisp
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          • Dec 2015
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          #5
          Re: SAMSUNG LE40C530F1W no picture with sound

          any ideas ?

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          • budm
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            • Feb 2010
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            #6
            Re: SAMSUNG LE40C530F1W no picture with sound

            322V is pretty close to 325vdc (AC @230vac) What is the measured AC feeding the TV? Multiply that by 1.414 to get what you should have between the two legs of the main filter caps.
            'Samsung LE40C530; turned on, flickered, now no backlight (but picture/sound work).' You are saying that you have the problem as OP? You have no backlights but you do have sound just like OP then?
            Check Diodes DP801, 805.
            We need to get that boosted Voltage first, you do have have standby Voltage and all the commands signals from the main board, right?
            Attached Files
            Last edited by budm; 12-25-2015, 06:03 PM.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • takisp
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              • Dec 2015
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              #7
              Re: SAMSUNG LE40C530F1W no picture with sound

              with everything connected to the psu and the tv turn on i am having these measurments

              pin1-3-5-15-17=12,7v
              pin7-9=0v
              pin11-13=5,2v
              pin2=0v
              pin4=4,4v
              pin6=2,06v
              pin8=1,70v
              pin10=0v
              pin12=0v
              pin14=5,2v
              pin16=5,2v
              pin18=1,5v

              Yes problem is the same i have sound and the backlights does not open but i can see the picture moving with a flushlight.

              both diodes was ok

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              • takisp
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                • Dec 2015
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                #8
                Re: SAMSUNG LE40C530F1W no picture with sound

                should i order a new psu or could be something else ?

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: SAMSUNG LE40C530F1W no picture with sound

                  At this point you do need new power supply/inverter combo board since the PFC Voltage booster is not working right now.
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • takisp
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                    • Dec 2015
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                    • Chalkida

                    #10
                    Re: SAMSUNG LE40C530F1W no picture with sound

                    Originally posted by budm
                    At this point you do need new power supply/inverter combo board since the PFC Voltage booster is not working right now.
                    Thank you dudm!
                    One last question plz my psu is the BN44-00340B REV 1.4 i have found the same board but REV 1.2 is this ok or i sould find exactly the same?

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                    • budm
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                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: SAMSUNG LE40C530F1W no picture with sound

                      1.2 is an older revision, I would get the same revision or newer revision. They may have released new revision to fix what they found on the old revision.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • HellasTechn1
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2015
                        • 176
                        • Greece

                        #12
                        Re: SAMSUNG LE40C530F1W no picture with sound

                        I have a very similar problem with the same model. In my case it would power on but backlight does not come on at all. I measure the voltage on the main filter caps with the TV powered on and logic bord connected and i get like 305 Volts like takisp.

                        I also found a bad zener. The ZDP804
                        Last edited by HellasTechn1; 08-16-2017, 10:05 AM.

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                        • HellasTechn1
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                          • Sep 2015
                          • 176
                          • Greece

                          #13
                          Re: SAMSUNG LE40C530F1W no picture with sound

                          After removing and checking the ZDP804 it appears to be ok. Also i replaced the PFC chip and nothing changed.

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                          • budm
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                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: SAMSUNG LE40C530F1W no picture with sound

                            We need to verify if you do have the VCC to run the PFC IC or not first.
                            BTW: your power supply board is BN44-00340B?
                            Last edited by budm; 08-16-2017, 01:41 PM.
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • HellasTechn1
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2015
                              • 176
                              • Greece

                              #15
                              Re: SAMSUNG LE40C530F1W no picture with sound

                              I think that is the psu. I will confirm it and get back here.

                              The vcc i measure between the resistor pr823 and GND or chasis ?

                              What voltage should i expect ?
                              Last edited by HellasTechn1; 08-19-2017, 12:48 AM.

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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: SAMSUNG LE40C530F1W no picture with sound

                                You are working in the primary side of the circuit so the Ground reference for the primary side of the circuit will be the negative leg of the main filter cap (the big electrolytics cap with 450VDC rating.
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                Comment

                                • HellasTechn1
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Sep 2015
                                  • 176
                                  • Greece

                                  #17
                                  Re: SAMSUNG LE40C530F1W no picture with sound

                                  Originally posted by budm
                                  You are working in the primary side of the circuit so the Ground reference for the primary side of the circuit will be the negative leg of the main filter cap (the big electrolytics cap with 450VDC rating.
                                  Got it... Any idea what voltage should i be expecting ?

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                                  • budm
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Feb 2010
                                    • 40746
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: SAMSUNG LE40C530F1W no picture with sound

                                    15~18VDC range is typical, best to get the P/N of the PFC IC to look up the spec. sheet.
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                    Comment

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