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  • bigern26
    New Member
    • Dec 2015
    • 7
    • USA

    #1

    Sony KDL-46Bx450 Backlight problems

    Hello all,
    I am looking for help on my Sony tv. We were watching tv the other night and it just shut off, came back on and then went black but had sound then shut off again and the red light blinked 6 times.
    I unplugged it and brought to the basement to see if I could figure out whats wrong and when I plugged it in with the back off the standby light was solid so I hit the power button and it turned on and showed the sony logo then went black but stayed on with no blinking light.
    After doing a bunch of research and troubleshooting I finally grabbed a flashlight and I can see the menu screen and have sound. So my backlights are shutting off after a second.

    I have unplugged the Tcon board and the backlights did the same thing.

    So testing everything I am thinking either I have a bad bulb or bad inverter. but I am not sure how to test the inverter.

    I will post up my voltages of my pins.

    TV plugged in but not turned on(standby light on)
    CN6401
    STBY 3.3v - 3.32V
    AC OFF DET - 3.05V
    POWER ON - 0

    Everything else is 0

    TV on and stand by light green
    CN6401
    STBY 3.3V - 3.31V
    AC OFF DET - 3.04V
    POWER ON - 3.29
    AUDIO12V - 12.6
    AUDIO12VGND - 0
    REG12VGND - 0
    REG12VGND - 0
    REG12V - 12.6V
    REG12V - 12.6V
    BL-ERR - 1.64V
    BL ON - 3.12V
    DIMMER - 1.67V
    TCONVcc12V - 12.56
    TCON ON - 3.31

    CN6402 BOARD
    UNREG24V - 25.3V
    UNREG24V - 25.3V
    UNREG24V - 25.3V
    UNREG24V - 25.3V
    UNREG24V - 25.3V
    GND - 0
    GND - 0
    GND - 0
    GND - 0
    GND - 0
    BL ERR - 1.64V
    BL ON - 3.13V
    DIMMER - 1.67V

    I am not 100 sure if I should get the inverter as I read that a bad bulb can cause this. Is there a way to test the inverter?
    I do have the manual for this but that was not much help.
  • CapLeaker
    Leaking Member
    • Dec 2014
    • 8188
    • Canada

    #2
    Re: Sony KDL-46Bx450 Backlight problems

    Nice straight shot pictures of the boards please.
    So far I can tell that the main board is sending correct signals to the PSU and Inverter. So we would have to have a close look on to the inverter board.
    Last edited by CapLeaker; 12-16-2015, 08:53 PM.

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    • bigern26
      New Member
      • Dec 2015
      • 7
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Sony KDL-46Bx450 Backlight problems

      Here are the 3 boards. I didnt want to take the cover off the Tcon unless I have to.
      Attached Files

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Sony KDL-46Bx450 Backlight problems

        That Inverter board looks familiar.
        What is the P/N on that inverter board?
        This one? Samsung LJ97-03319A Backlight Inverter (Sony 1-857-986-11)
        http://www.shopjimmy.com/samsung-lj9...-inverter.htm#
        Pictures provided by shopjimmy.

        There are many threads about this board and has bad transformer.
        https://www.badcaps.net/forum/search...archid=5691709
        Attached Files
        Last edited by budm; 12-16-2015, 09:48 PM.
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • bigern26
          New Member
          • Dec 2015
          • 7
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Sony KDL-46Bx450 Backlight problems

          Part number SSI460_12F01I think. Not sure where it is.

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Sony KDL-46Bx450 Backlight problems

            See post 4.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • bigern26
              New Member
              • Dec 2015
              • 7
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Sony KDL-46Bx450 Backlight problems

              How do I test the transformers?

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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Sony KDL-46Bx450 Backlight problems

                If you look at the picture, the four terminals on the bottom row of the transformer, make left most pin as pin 1, so you have pin 1~4.
                You will check the resistance of the first winding which is pin 1 & pin 2, then check the second winding which will be pin 3 & pin 4.
                Report the readings of each transformer, the resistance should be within 3% from each others. Look real close at the transformer and the bottom side of the board to see if any one of them show a sign of over heat.
                Attached Files
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • bigern26
                  New Member
                  • Dec 2015
                  • 7
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Sony KDL-46Bx450 Backlight problems

                  I think I fount the problem. See picture.

                  Tranformer readings
                  1 - 1308
                  2 - 1314
                  3 - 1154 - the one in the picture
                  4 - 1316
                  5 - 1349
                  6 - 1343
                  Attached Files

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Sony KDL-46Bx450 Backlight problems

                    You may want to contact this person to see if he still has the broken board that you take one of the transformer out to use in your board:
                    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...19A#post612126
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • bigern26
                      New Member
                      • Dec 2015
                      • 7
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Sony KDL-46Bx450 Backlight problems

                      Just sent a message to see. Thank so much for all the help. I didnt know where to begin on testing the inverter.

                      If that one is gone it looks like I can get a board from shopjimmy.com

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                      • CapLeaker
                        Leaking Member
                        • Dec 2014
                        • 8188
                        • Canada

                        #12
                        Re: Sony KDL-46Bx450 Backlight problems

                        bad transformer... I thought so... anyway... good luck!

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                        • geeforce
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2017
                          • 87
                          • Canada

                          #13
                          Re: Sony KDL-46Bx450 Backlight problems

                          Hey all,

                          Posting this here as it's super applicable.

                          I definitely think this tv I have has the bad transformer issue.

                          I'm concerned about the audio and video issue though. Does it seem like mainboard problems also or could this all be caused by the bad transformer.

                          Really not interested in investing much on this lol

                          Cheers,!

                          Video for what mine is doing

                          https://youtu.be/lzGEOG1g9wE
                          Attached Files

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