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  • niblettr
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2015
    • 98
    • UK

    #41
    Re: LG 50" Plasma 50PS30-UB powers on, no picture, no sound

    also, see attached
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    • vinceroger69
      Badcaps Legend
      • Mar 2012
      • 6714
      • uk

      #42
      Re: LG 50" Plasma 50PS30-UB powers on, no picture, no sound

      should the test point pins be bridged before you even turn the set on? or dosnt it matter?

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      • niblettr
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2015
        • 98
        • UK

        #43
        Re: LG 50" Plasma 50PS30-UB powers on, no picture, no sound

        No, just connect everything up like normal first.

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        • douellette88
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2015
          • 61
          • USA

          #44
          Re: LG 50" Plasma 50PS30-UB powers on, no picture, no sound

          Originally posted by niblettr
          Do you have access to an oscilloscope? If so, check for pretty waveform going from control board to Ysus board.
          I do not unfortunately.

          As for the power wires on the board, I will check it tomorrow after work

          If the voltages read low would you say bad power supply? and if voltages are okay, then bad logic board?

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          • douellette88
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2015
            • 61
            • USA

            #45
            Re: LG 50" Plasma 50PS30-UB powers on, no picture, no sound

            It's actually the one with white wires. First 4 pins on left read 5.11v and the others are ground which appears to be correct.
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            • niblettr
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2015
              • 98
              • UK

              #46
              Re: LG 50" Plasma 50PS30-UB powers on, no picture, no sound

              Try isolating the Z sus board then try power up tv. Do you see any change?
              Last edited by niblettr; 09-18-2015, 01:14 AM.

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              • douellette88
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2015
                • 61
                • USA

                #47
                Re: LG 50" Plasma 50PS30-UB powers on, no picture, no sound

                Originally posted by niblettr
                Try isolating the Z sus board then try power up tv. Do you see any change?
                If you are referring to simply unplugging power from the z sus, then yes I have already tried that and nothing changed. But I will go try disconnecting everything from it to double check

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                • douellette88
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2015
                  • 61
                  • USA

                  #48
                  Re: LG 50" Plasma 50PS30-UB powers on, no picture, no sound

                  Originally posted by niblettr
                  Try isolating the Z sus board then try power up tv. Do you see any change?
                  I unplugged both wires going to the z sus board and no change. I feel like we are at a point where I should start trying to replace parts now

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                  • Alastair E
                    Chief Womble
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 1963
                    • U.K.

                    #49
                    Re: LG 50" Plasma 50PS30-UB powers on, no picture, no sound

                    Aye--Go on, Replace parts!

                    But--Which Ones....?

                    Only logical fault-finding will tell ya! Can you confirm ALL the voltages are Correct?

                    These are--

                    Vs, Va, VSC, -Vy and VZBias.--Not all of these are measured with respect to chassis, so confirm with the manual the correct test-points, but are normally marked on the boards.

                    Your fault--(To illogically just replace parts) could be in no particular order-- the Control-Board, the Y-SUS, the Z-SUS or the Mainboard,--Oh yes, the PSU and the Buffer-board could also be at fault, Or the panel itself

                    You takes your pick and pays the price!....

                    Confirm also, you have Va on the lower panel address-board.
                    TELEFIX

                    How PLASMA SCREENS WORK, X-SUS and Y-SUS what they do--
                    http://www.irf.com/technical-info/appnotes/an-1088.pdf
                    PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME PRIVATELY FOR REPAIR ADVICE. QUESTIONS BELONG ON THE FORUM!

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                    • douellette88
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2015
                      • 61
                      • USA

                      #50
                      Re: LG 50" Plasma 50PS30-UB powers on, no picture, no sound

                      Originally posted by Alastair E
                      Aye--Go on, Replace parts!

                      But--Which Ones....?

                      Only logical fault-finding will tell ya! Can you confirm ALL the voltages are Correct?

                      These are--

                      Vs, Va, VSC, -Vy and VZBias.--Not all of these are measured with respect to chassis, so confirm with the manual the correct test-points, but are normally marked on the boards.

                      Your fault--(To illogically just replace parts) could be in no particular order-- the Control-Board, the Y-SUS, the Z-SUS or the Mainboard,--Oh yes, the PSU and the Buffer-board could also be at fault, Or the panel itself

                      You takes your pick and pays the price!....

                      Confirm also, you have Va on the lower panel address-board.
                      As I posted earlier in the thread all the voltages I tested were normal. No idea how to test the "lower panel address board", no one has mentioned that yet. I'm just getting frustrated that this tv is not a quick/simple fix like I was expecting.

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                      • douellette88
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2015
                        • 61
                        • USA

                        #51
                        Re: LG 50" Plasma 50PS30-UB powers on, no picture, no sound

                        Bump

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                        • reaper57
                          Badcaps Veteran
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 216
                          • Norway

                          #52
                          Re: LG 50" Plasma 50PS30-UB powers on, no picture, no sound

                          Originally posted by douellette88
                          Bump
                          Check all of the fuses, especially the ones on the power supply, while the TV is off and has been unplugged for a minute or two.
                          Also, can you post a picture of the power supply?
                          Last edited by reaper57; 09-23-2015, 06:05 AM.
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                          • douellette88
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2015
                            • 61
                            • USA

                            #53
                            Re: LG 50" Plasma 50PS30-UB powers on, no picture, no sound

                            Pic attached. All the fuses I can see test okay (none reading as OL)
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                            • douellette88
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2015
                              • 61
                              • USA

                              #54
                              Re: LG 50" Plasma 50PS30-UB powers on, no picture, no sound

                              Another pic
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                              • douellette88
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2015
                                • 61
                                • USA

                                #55
                                Re: LG 50" Plasma 50PS30-UB powers on, no picture, no sound

                                Whatcha thinking?

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                                • reaper57
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Sep 2014
                                  • 216
                                  • Norway

                                  #56
                                  Re: LG 50" Plasma 50PS30-UB powers on, no picture, no sound

                                  I recently had a similar plasma with the same power supply, the problem there where the two mosfets marked in red in the picture bellow. They are actually a common failure on this power supply. Check the resistance between the legs, there should be no shorts.
                                  P.S. Are you sure that the blue fuse, left of the mosfets in red, is reading 0 ohms and not something like 300-1k ohms?
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                                  • douellette88
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Jun 2015
                                    • 61
                                    • USA

                                    #57
                                    Re: LG 50" Plasma 50PS30-UB powers on, no picture, no sound

                                    Without removing the board, none of those 3 appear to be showing OL. Would you suspect power supply? And was yours having the same symptoms?

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                                    • douellette88
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Jun 2015
                                      • 61
                                      • USA

                                      #58
                                      Re: LG 50" Plasma 50PS30-UB powers on, no picture, no sound

                                      Fuse was at 0

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                                      • Hamie
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Apr 2014
                                        • 1383
                                        • UK

                                        #59
                                        Re: LG 50" Plasma 50PS30-UB powers on, no picture, no sound

                                        I sincerely doubt your power supply to be at fault.
                                        You have VS, VA, 5v standby etc.
                                        Along with vzb, vy and vsc

                                        Your problem is more likely to be the control board or the main AV board.

                                        It may also be, as suggested earlier, the lower address boards are not getting voltages or are faulty.
                                        Or the panel itself.

                                        Going by the fact it's an LG I'd hazard a guess at the mainboard.

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                                        • reaper57
                                          Badcaps Veteran
                                          • Sep 2014
                                          • 216
                                          • Norway

                                          #60
                                          Re: LG 50" Plasma 50PS30-UB powers on, no picture, no sound

                                          Originally posted by Hamie
                                          I sincerely doubt your power supply to be at fault.
                                          You have VS, VA, 5v standby etc.
                                          Along with vzb, vy and vsc

                                          Your problem is more likely to be the control board or the main AV board.

                                          It may also be, as suggested earlier, the lower address boards are not getting voltages or are faulty.
                                          Or the panel itself.

                                          Going by the fact it's an LG I'd hazard a guess at the mainboard.
                                          You're probably right, I must have missed the part about the VS and the VA voltages. Btw, mine also had 5V standby, but that's probably because the blue fuse on my board was at 300-1k ohms.
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