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    Vizio VO32L - no picture / won't power on

    Ok, this one is kinda boggling my mind. I have a Vizio VO32L that "kind of" won't power on and "kind of" has no picture. I say this to indiciate that i have been able to get it to power on and show a perfect picture but cannot replicate this. further details to clarify this mess of an opening statement to follow:

    For starters....when first plugged in, the orange vizio standby light comes on and then slowly fades. It still on, just not as bright. Pressing the power button does nothing. 5VSB is outputting appx. 5V as it should. 12V and 24V pins have 0V as to be expected when not powered on. If I jump 5VSB to PSON, the 12V and 24V pins come up to proper voltage. However the power button still does nothing and it won't power on. Still the orange light.

    Now here's where it gets strange. I took the button board off of the plastic bezel so I could test connections to verify that the power switch actually is working. (didint disconnect wires, just made the board accessible). The switch tested ok. Open when not pressed, closed when pressed. Then I set the button panel down (turns out i set it so the bottom of the board was resting on the shield over the inverter, not paying attention). At this point, I jumped from 5VSB to PSON again, and to my surprise the second I plugged the jumper into the PSON I heard a speaker make a little buzz for a split second, and at the same time a blue led on the back of the inverter came on and quickly faded out, and the backlight was on. I looked at the front of the panel and low and behold the dang thing is on and blue with "no input" bouncing around the screen! Vizio light was lit up bright white. Pressed the power button and the screen turned off, vizio light went orange, then within 1 second (i didn't press the power button again), the vizio light went white and the panel powered back on again working perfectly. Pressed the power button again and did the same thing. Off then right back on again. So I pulled the ac plug, then plugged it back in, and it automatically turned itself on and the screen came on etc. Pulled the plug again, then removed the jumper wire from the 5VSB/PSON pins to see if it would power up on it's own now. plugged it back in, pushed the power button, and not a thing. Tried to jump from 5VSB to PSON again and it's right back to where it was before. Orange vizio light, 12V and 24V power at the corresponding pins, but the set won't come on. it was then that I realized where I had set the button board before, and was wondering if me somehow shorting one of the solder joints to case ground did something that allowed the set to come on, which may in some way indicate where the problem is. As such I tried to replicate by finding the same short. Looks like the only power to the button board is 5VSB, so I shorted 5VSB to ground while it was jumped to PSON, and I heard a cap charge quick and the blue LED on the inverter came on again, backlight came on again, but only for a split second then it went out. Now if I try that same thing I hear that cap charge but its still where it was at the very beginning. All the pins power up but the set won't power on.

    Needless to same I'm completely at a loss here. Thought I was on to something but since I can't replicate the TV powering on I have no clue what to do next. Does someone know the proper steps to manually jump / power on this set? Do I need to ground something or jump voltage to something other than 5VSB to PSON? Something that I was accidentally doing at some point but couldn't figure out?

    Hoping someone can make some sense of this thing that has me completely stumped.

    Thank you in advance for any help and suggestions! It is much appreciated as always!
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    #2
    Re: Vizio VO32L - no picture / won't power on

    Since you have to force on the power supply, it means that the main board is not sending the PS-ON signal to turn on the rest of the power supply, and for the backlights to come on, you will need to force on the bl-on pin also. I will never do the force on WITHOUT removing the control wires (PS-ON and the BL-ON) going back to the main board and I always use the resistors to limit the current in case you jump to the wrong pin or accidentally short them to ground, you can also damage the switched transistors on the main board if the transistor is ON (which is the normal condition to keep the PS-ON and BL-ON grounded).
    You should also check the Voltages of the regulator ICs on the main board, this model is also known for bad EEPROM.
    http://www.shopjimmy.com/catalogsear...?q=Vizio+VO32L
    Last edited by budm; 06-09-2015, 04:01 PM.
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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      #3
      Re: Vizio VO32L - no picture / won't power on

      ok, thanks for the tips. Might save me from inadvertently frying some stuff in the future! I'm having trouble finding a BL-ON pin. Are you able to see from the pics which pin this might be? No luck finding a service manual for this model.
      That aside....assuming that jumping PS-ON BL-ON works and it powers the set on like it should, what should I start looking into on the main board?

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        #4
        Re: Vizio VO32L - no picture / won't power on

        The BL-ON is one of those A, B, and C signal pins, one of the them for BL-ON, then other two are for Analog dimming and PWM Dimming.
        To find out which one is the bl-on, you need to locate the the BL-ON (or INV-ON, or ON/OFF) on the inverter board connector to see which one goes to the A, B, or C.
        Right now it can be that the main board may not be sending the PS-ON but it may be sending the BL-ON command, so check that signal on the inverter board to see if it is present or not when power switch is activated.
        Last edited by budm; 06-09-2015, 04:31 PM.
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          #5
          Re: Vizio VO32L - no picture / won't power on

          alright. pin 12 ("on/off") on the inverter goes to "A" on the inv connector on the power board. When I jump 5V-SB to both PS-ON and "A" (BL-ON), The blue LED on the inverter comes on then fades out over about 1 second. the backlight comes on and stays on. The Vizio light on the front stays dim orange. Black screen.

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            #6
            Re: Vizio VO32L - no picture / won't power on

            OK, your power supply and inverter are fine. Your main board is the problem, I would start checking the regulator ICs on the main board next.
            https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...999#post300999
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              #7
              Re: Vizio VO32L - no picture / won't power on

              Ok. All 1117s read 1.23V from adjust to output

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                #8
                Re: Vizio VO32L - no picture / won't power on

                Also, output ~ adj+1.25V for all.

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                  #9
                  Re: Vizio VO32L - no picture / won't power on

                  So all the readings are within the spec then?
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    #10
                    Re: Vizio VO32L - no picture / won't power on

                    Going off the testing method linked to in your signature, yes.

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                      #11
                      Re: Vizio VO32L - no picture / won't power on

                      Well, I do not know what else you can check at this point.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        #12
                        Re: Vizio VO32L - no picture / won't power on

                        Ok. thank you so much for all of your help! I will get a main board ordered up then.
                        Thanks again!

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                          #13
                          Re: Vizio VO32L - no picture / won't power on

                          Please make sure to give us the follow-up on the repair.
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            #14
                            Re: Vizio VO32L - no picture / won't power on

                            I sure will

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                              #15
                              Re: Vizio VO32L - no picture / won't power on

                              BTW, I forget to ask you to remove the cable to the T-con board to see what will happen.
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                #16
                                Re: Vizio VO32L - no picture / won't power on

                                It has been sitting for a few hours. Plugged in but the surge protector switched off. Jumpers still in place to PS-ON and BL-ON. I flipped the switch on the surge protector and the set came on, screen came on blue and displayed the input and no signal etc. In other works, working properly. (But jumped). I pressed the power button and it shut off. Vizio light back to orange. Pressed power again and it wouldn't come back on. Just the orange vizio light and the backlights. So I unplugged it and disconnected tcon. With the tcon disconnected and jumpers in place the set comes on with the vizio light white, backlights on, black screen.

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                                  #17
                                  Re: Vizio VO32L - no picture / won't power on

                                  Since you did get the pictures on the screen then the T-CON is fine. I wonder now that the problem can be the EEPROM problem.
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                    #18
                                    Re: Vizio VO32L - no picture / won't power on

                                    Hmm. Any good way to test for that without a scope or is it kind of a try it and see kinda thing lol

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                                      #19
                                      Re: Vizio VO32L - no picture / won't power on

                                      OK, I look at the notes about the symptom of bad EEPROM and it does not look like it is applied to your problem.
                                      http://www.shopjimmy.com/vizio-vo32l...eprom-only.htm

                                      IMPORTANT:
                                      These main boards can have multiple failures, in addition to the EEPROM.
                                      If EEPROM replacement does not repair your board, there are likely additional problems.

                                      Symptoms EEPROM replacement CAN fix:
                                      - Display is frozen on VIZIO logo screen*
                                      - TV won't power on with remote/buttons when plugged-in (VIZIO is lit in orange, but won't turn to white)
                                      - TV turns on when first plugged-in, but it won't turn back on after 30 minutes of being off
                                      - TV shuts off and goes back to standby mode (orange VIZIO lit) after you turn it on

                                      Symptoms EEPROM replacement CAN NOT Fix:
                                      - TV turns on but has NO backlight
                                      - TV turns on AND backlights are on, but has no video display at all
                                      - HDMI issues
                                      - Audio issues
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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