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  • liamoc74
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2015
    • 80
    • Ireland

    #1

    Samsung LE32B450C4W

    Got this tv in, wasnt powering..

    Changed internal fuse which was blown and it started sparking at the bridge rectifer, the one at bottom right of the heat sink.

    I took the board out and the negative pin was kind of burnt and solder was not there so i soldered it up and popped it back in, sparking stopped and tv came on but on the left hand side there are(were) 11 tabs, the one at the bottom left(looking at rear of board) started to heat up so i cut power and then when i was removing the board again it snapped.

    Put it back in tested again and it just started to get really hot there so I ordered what I thought was the same board online which came today.

    Noticed its not exactly the same but says its compatible.
    Now the tv powers up, shows the menu screen for the selected channel and then the screen goes black after about 3 seconds, tv is still on. Turn it off, turn it on, same thing!

    Old board on the left, new one on the right..

    Any ideas..?

    Thanks!!
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  • Fwrothy
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2014
    • 178
    • Canada

    #2
    Re: Samsung LE32B450C4W

    Maybe a stupid question but-have you tried giving a real input signal?

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    • liamoc74
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2015
      • 80
      • Ireland

      #3
      Re: Samsung LE32B450C4W

      No tv connection in shop yet but tried on the hdmi with a laptop with working hdmi(tried on another tv).
      Will get it home later on tho, test and post results!!

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      • liamoc74
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2015
        • 80
        • Ireland

        #4
        Re: Samsung LE32B450C4W

        No joy - its just coming on and the screen flashes with picture for 2 secs and then goes off, volume continues to run..

        Made a short vid to show..

        http://youtu.be/Q7323o4gpdU

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        • liamoc74
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2015
          • 80
          • Ireland

          #5
          Re: Samsung LE32B450C4W

          Anyone any ideas on this problem.??

          Its a backlight prob, can still see the pic when backlight dies! The inverter is built into psu board(the one i replaced), what do in need to check or replace on this board.?
          Last edited by liamoc74; 02-23-2015, 06:51 AM.

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          • tom66
            EVs Rule
            • Apr 2011
            • 32560
            • UK

            #6
            Re: Samsung LE32B450C4W

            Check across the large 450V capacitor, yellow thing on the primary side, you should have about 390V across it. If it is low, around 320-330V, it will cause this fault, it is due to bad PFC IC (FAN7529 IIRC)
            Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
            For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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            • liamoc74
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2015
              • 80
              • Ireland

              #7
              Re: Samsung LE32B450C4W

              Thanks Tom - i'm getting 393V across it..

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              • liamoc74
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2015
                • 80
                • Ireland

                #8
                Re: Samsung LE32B450C4W

                Just remembered that when the backlight connection thing broke of old board the holder also broke, for some reason it didnt occur to me until now - surely thats whats causing the backlight to die after 2 secs - tried old board again and same thing happening too - im some dope surely!!

                Pic attached - whats it called.? Holder/connection.?
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                • tom66
                  EVs Rule
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 32560
                  • UK

                  #9
                  Re: Samsung LE32B450C4W

                  The bulbs slot into there... so it must be somewhere... I hope you have not broken the bulb (they are very delicate.) When I was working on a LE40B550 I broke the tab on the board that slots in there, I was able to fix this but it took a lot of work, good lesson learned.
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                  • liamoc74
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2015
                    • 80
                    • Ireland

                    #10
                    Re: Samsung LE32B450C4W

                    Yeah thats the thing that broke, the white one at the bottom, bulbs are fine but that bottom one broke in two, pretty sure the two bits have been thrown out - damit, can i get a replacement or whats the work around.? some things just have to be learnt the hardway eh..

                    If i solder a cable to the bottom bulb and then connect it to the tab on the board - that do the trick!?
                    Last edited by liamoc74; 02-24-2015, 09:12 AM.

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                    • tom66
                      EVs Rule
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 32560
                      • UK

                      #11
                      Re: Samsung LE32B450C4W

                      The bulbs are pretty hard to solder to (the surface is not usually designed to accept solder), maybe the best you can do is find some clip to connect or get the required part from a cracked panel.

                      If you do decide to solder to the bulb make sure to take it out or the heat from your iron could damage the diffuser or LCD panel.
                      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
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                      • liamoc74
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2015
                        • 80
                        • Ireland

                        #12
                        Re: Samsung LE32B450C4W

                        Okay cool - worth a shot - feel so close to actually fixing this thing!!

                        Could i just solder a cable from "c1850" on damaged board to the bulb and return the one I ordered!

                        If i'm going to use old board, should i keep the pin being soldered to the bulb in the board or remove it and then attach cable.?

                        Sorry about all the questions, i am eager to learn how to fix these tho and i really do appreciate your time..
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                        • tom66
                          EVs Rule
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 32560
                          • UK

                          #13
                          Re: Samsung LE32B450C4W

                          There's nothing stopping you soldering to an appropriate part of the board but how do you intend to connect to the bulb itself? It's damn near impossible to solder to them, you will have to take the bulb out of the screen, but then how will you put them back in the set if you solder them together?
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                          • liamoc74
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2015
                            • 80
                            • Ireland

                            #14
                            Re: Samsung LE32B450C4W

                            im hoping i can get this to clip onto the end of the bulb..
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                            • tom66
                              EVs Rule
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 32560
                              • UK

                              #15
                              Re: Samsung LE32B450C4W

                              Best of luck - please let us know how it goes
                              Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                              For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                              • liamoc74
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2015
                                • 80
                                • Ireland

                                #16
                                Re: Samsung LE32B450C4W

                                I will indeed - one thing tho, pin in or pin out when i solder to the cap.?

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                                • Alastair E
                                  Chief Womble
                                  • Mar 2013
                                  • 1963
                                  • U.K.

                                  #17
                                  Re: Samsung LE32B450C4W

                                  I broke one of those tabs once--Soldered a wire link in there, job done......

                                  No need to fuss around stripping the LCD down to repair, just fish out the broken bit of tab cut the plastic slightly and solder direct to the metal of the connector in there and then to the PSU.

                                  Simples!
                                  TELEFIX

                                  How PLASMA SCREENS WORK, X-SUS and Y-SUS what they do--
                                  http://www.irf.com/technical-info/appnotes/an-1088.pdf
                                  PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME PRIVATELY FOR REPAIR ADVICE. QUESTIONS BELONG ON THE FORUM!

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                                  • liamoc74
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Feb 2015
                                    • 80
                                    • Ireland

                                    #18
                                    Re: Samsung LE32B450C4W

                                    im missing the connector too tho so have to find a way of attaching to the bulb..

                                    well know how it goes in 5 mins!!

                                    When you say to the psu alastair you mean to the cap yeah, should i leave the pin im soldering too connected to the board or disconnect and then solder.? Basic stuff im sure but im just not sure..
                                    Last edited by liamoc74; 02-24-2015, 10:50 AM.

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                                    • Alastair E
                                      Chief Womble
                                      • Mar 2013
                                      • 1963
                                      • U.K.

                                      #19
                                      Re: Samsung LE32B450C4W

                                      Well--IF the bulb is the type with a wire sticking out the end--no problem, solder (Carefully) to that.

                                      If the bulb is the type with the silver end and no wire, then you'll need to firmly wrap some wire around the silvered end and use that to connect to....
                                      TELEFIX

                                      How PLASMA SCREENS WORK, X-SUS and Y-SUS what they do--
                                      http://www.irf.com/technical-info/appnotes/an-1088.pdf
                                      PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME PRIVATELY FOR REPAIR ADVICE. QUESTIONS BELONG ON THE FORUM!

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                                      • liamoc74
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Feb 2015
                                        • 80
                                        • Ireland

                                        #20
                                        Re: Samsung LE32B450C4W

                                        im on the bulb now, cliped and soldered, seems solid!!

                                        The other end tho, im going straight to a cap yeah, cap 1850 in previous pic..do i leave the pin still connected to board or remove - the reason i ask cause is current still going to go as far as broken tab with pin still in board.?? or will it take the route of my soldered cable regardless of weather its on the board or not..

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