PL51D550C1G Plasma Samsung - No picture, but sound is ok

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  • rogerazambuja
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    Re: PL51D550C1G Plasma Samsung - No picture, but sound is ok

    Originally posted by vinceroger69
    The new transistor you have just replaced does it still test ok? try testing like you did before (1-2, 2-3, 1-3)
    Sorry, now I understand what you mean. After I turned on the TV a lot of times, I have tested the transistor again and it is ok, no shorts, but still no picture.
    So I can say that the problem isn't the panel? Because the transistor didn't blow up again.

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  • rogerazambuja
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    Re: PL51D550C1G Plasma Samsung - No picture, but sound is ok

    Originally posted by vinceroger69
    The new transistor you have just replaced does it still test ok? try testing like you did before (1-2, 2-3, 1-3)
    Yes, I did test before replace the old one and it is ok. But still no picture

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  • vinceroger69
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    Re: PL51D550C1G Plasma Samsung - No picture, but sound is ok

    The new transistor you have just replaced does it still test ok? try testing like you did before (1-2, 2-3, 1-3)
    Last edited by vinceroger69; 12-13-2014, 04:09 AM.

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  • tom66
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    Re: PL51D550C1G Plasma Samsung - No picture, but sound is ok

    There is a small possibility that could cause the fault.

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  • rogerazambuja
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    Re: PL51D550C1G Plasma Samsung - No picture, but sound is ok

    Originally posted by tom66
    Without an oscilloscope, unfortunately not.

    (The oscilloscope would verify the Y-main and X-main work. If these boards work, it would indicate the panel is bad)

    A cheaper option may be worth trying: the control board. It's rare, but it can fail where the light blinks, but there is no picture.
    tom66, just a last question: Do you think that a fail in control board could cause the "explosion" that I heard when picture was gone and that transistor on Y-main to get shorted?

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  • rogerazambuja
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    Re: PL51D550C1G Plasma Samsung - No picture, but sound is ok

    Originally posted by tom66
    That can be one of the ways a panel fails but in that case you would have a subtle glow from the screen but no image on it.
    Understood.

    I will try to figure out what I'm gonna do with my TV. Maybe I will take it to another tech in my city and see what he is gonna say about it, or maybe I will try to contact Samsung's assistance in a city 350km from here
    Anyway, thanks a lot for helping.

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  • tom66
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    Re: PL51D550C1G Plasma Samsung - No picture, but sound is ok

    That can be one of the ways a panel fails but in that case you would have a subtle glow from the screen but no image on it.

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  • rogerazambuja
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    Re: PL51D550C1G Plasma Samsung - No picture, but sound is ok

    Originally posted by tom66
    Without an oscilloscope, unfortunately not.

    (The oscilloscope would verify the Y-main and X-main work. If these boards work, it would indicate the panel is bad)

    A cheaper option may be worth trying: the control board. It's rare, but it can fail where the light blinks, but there is no picture.
    I read in some samsung's bulletin that if the fuse on E-buffer board is not blown then the panel is ok. Is that correct?

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  • tom66
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    Re: PL51D550C1G Plasma Samsung - No picture, but sound is ok

    Without an oscilloscope, unfortunately not.

    (The oscilloscope would verify the Y-main and X-main work. If these boards work, it would indicate the panel is bad)

    A cheaper option may be worth trying: the control board. It's rare, but it can fail where the light blinks, but there is no picture.

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  • rogerazambuja
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    Re: PL51D550C1G Plasma Samsung - No picture, but sound is ok

    I did replace the transistor... no success, still no picture. At least the transistor didn't blow up.

    I think I have to replace both Y-main and X-main boards like the tech said. But I'm afraid to buy those boards and the problem be the panel. Is there really no way to test the panel?
    Last edited by rogerazambuja; 12-12-2014, 03:27 PM.

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  • rogerazambuja
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    Re: PL51D550C1G Plasma Samsung - No picture, but sound is ok

    Originally posted by rogerazambuja
    The transistor has arrived, I will test today.
    Is it worth to replace the transistor and before to turn on the whole set, unplug the panel, then unplug x-main in order to see what is the problem if the transistor blow up again?
    I'm about to replace the shorted transistor right now. Should I do these steps mentioned above?

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  • rogerazambuja
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    Re: PL51D550C1G Plasma Samsung - No picture, but sound is ok

    The transistor has arrived, I will test today.
    Is it worth to replace the transistor and before to turn on the whole set, unplug the panel, then unplug x-main in order to see what is the problem if the transistor blow up again?

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  • rogerazambuja
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    Re: PL51D550C1G Plasma Samsung - No picture, but sound is ok

    Originally posted by tom66
    1 and 2 are the other way around.
    Pins are read anticlockwise from pin 1.

    Try replacing the FET/transistor, and let us know how it goes.
    Sure. I don't think that this transistor is available at eletronics shops in my city, so I will buy in a website that is kind of a "Brazilian ebay".
    Thanks a lot for helping. I let you know if it will work.

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  • tom66
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    Re: PL51D550C1G Plasma Samsung - No picture, but sound is ok

    1 and 2 are the other way around.
    Pins are read anticlockwise from pin 1.

    Try replacing the FET/transistor, and let us know how it goes.

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  • rogerazambuja
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    Re: PL51D550C1G Plasma Samsung - No picture, but sound is ok

    Originally posted by tom66
    Ok, I'd check U5012 for shorts between pins 3-4, 4-5 and 3-5. That is the most at risk part.
    I just tested it, no shorts.

    I assumed that these pins are the pins below, right? Like this:

    1__ 2

    3 4 5

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  • tom66
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    Re: PL51D550C1G Plasma Samsung - No picture, but sound is ok

    Ok, I'd check U5012 for shorts between pins 3-4, 4-5 and 3-5. That is the most at risk part.

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  • rogerazambuja
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    Re: PL51D550C1G Plasma Samsung - No picture, but sound is ok

    Originally posted by tom66
    Q5018, is that just a mark on it, or is that burnt?
    It is just a mark, I only noticed when I took the picture. I think I quickly touched the IC (with the iron) when I was trying to take off the transistor, because it was very difficult to do it. :S

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  • tom66
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    Re: PL51D550C1G Plasma Samsung - No picture, but sound is ok

    Q5018, is that just a mark on it, or is that burnt?

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  • rogerazambuja
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    Re: PL51D550C1G Plasma Samsung - No picture, but sound is ok

    Sure... Unfortunatelly, I think I quickly touched the iron on IC Q5028. Hope it didn't fry .
    Last edited by rogerazambuja; 12-06-2014, 12:31 PM.

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  • tom66
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    Re: PL51D550C1G Plasma Samsung - No picture, but sound is ok

    Can you post a picture of the circuit underneath that transistor? It is worth checking the driver components are OK too.

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