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    Pansasonic P50S30 Solid Red LED - Repost

    Powers up I guess, red led stays solid red, unit doesn't do anything, have to unplug to power down.

    #2
    Re: Pansasonic P50S30 Solid Red LED - Repost

    I would have just kept this all together as it's in progress. Locked solid may very well be shorted Vsus / SC board. Check Sc2 for short cct or disconnect Sc2 / Sc20 and try turn on again and see if it attempts to start up then sos blinks.

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      #3
      Re: Pansasonic P50S30 Solid Red LED - Repost

      This is out of the ST30 guide, but quick summary of SOS changes for the 2011 models

      Shutdown but No Blink code - Power LED stays on (Check for Shorted Vsus* / Vda** / P15V

      Blink chart:
      NO BLINLK SOLID RED,
      LSI Error,
      Shorted Vsus Shorted Vda Shorted P15V

      In order of probability.

      SC - SS, P, A, Panel

      Red Solid LED (No Blink): LSI error. This condition is triggered when the power supply SOS-detect-signal is triggered during the startup process.
      Attached Files

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        #4
        Re: Pansasonic P50S30 Solid Red LED - Repost

        Thanks TW, what I get from the service manual is probability of a bad power supply, do you concur?

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          #5
          Re: Pansasonic P50S30 Solid Red LED - Repost

          More likely SC or SS board has a short on the Vsus line......
          TELEFIX

          How PLASMA SCREENS WORK, X-SUS and Y-SUS what they do--
          http://www.irf.com/technical-info/appnotes/an-1088.pdf
          PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME PRIVATELY FOR REPAIR ADVICE. QUESTIONS BELONG ON THE FORUM!

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            #6
            Re: Pansasonic P50S30 Solid Red LED - Repost

            I disconnect the SC2/P2, SC20/A20, SS11/P11 as instructed and I get 8 flashes. I reconnect everything and disconnect the SC2/P2 and get 7 flashes, if I disconnect the SS11/P11 I get a solid red LED
            That's supposed to be telling me something, SC Board ?

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              #7
              Re: Pansasonic P50S30 Solid Red LED - Repost

              Have you checked the Vs line on both the SS and SC boards to deck for a short...?
              TELEFIX

              How PLASMA SCREENS WORK, X-SUS and Y-SUS what they do--
              http://www.irf.com/technical-info/appnotes/an-1088.pdf
              PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME PRIVATELY FOR REPAIR ADVICE. QUESTIONS BELONG ON THE FORUM!

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                #8
                Re: Pansasonic P50S30 Solid Red LED - Repost

                Actually, when disconnecting the 3 cables as described, I get 8 flashes, indicating an A-Board or Vsus - P15 short. When I disconnect the individual cables, I get the 7 Blink on the SC, solid on the SS
                Thus indicating an A-Board fault?

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                  #9
                  Re: Pansasonic P50S30 Solid Red LED - Repost

                  8 blinks should be SS, you sure it's A board?
                  Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                  For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                    #10
                    Re: Pansasonic P50S30 Solid Red LED - Repost

                    Well--IF you're randomly unplugging stuff, and not confirming whether there's any SHORTS anywhere with a Multi-meter.......

                    All you are gonna do is confuse the matter looking for errors that dont exist--as you're making errors by disconnecting stuff!!
                    TELEFIX

                    How PLASMA SCREENS WORK, X-SUS and Y-SUS what they do--
                    http://www.irf.com/technical-info/appnotes/an-1088.pdf
                    PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME PRIVATELY FOR REPAIR ADVICE. QUESTIONS BELONG ON THE FORUM!

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                      #11
                      Re: Pansasonic P50S30 Solid Red LED - Repost

                      I'm off to get my multi meter in my work van . . . .
                      I was just responding to the service manual Page 61 for Solid Red Failure indicating that after the 3 cables are disconnected, it is blinking 8 times. A-Board, Vsus or P15V correct?

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                        #12
                        Re: Pansasonic P50S30 Solid Red LED - Repost

                        The fact you go from solid led (locked mode) or SOS4 on start-up to 8 or whatever after you disconnect the Sc confirms you have Shorted SC board.

                        In the 2010 models, a dead short on Vsus produced SOS4 at start-up but with these they've changed that to what you are seeing now

                        Initially you said it was constantly restarting and I did suggest checking SC for short because that appears to be the most common fault with the 2011 range.

                        Now that you have revised that with locked solid LED, I think everyone here is on the same page and expected shorted Vsus somewhere.

                        8 blinks is correct for Sc20 removed, it's all in the guide. Either way when you start probing it's going to be on the panel boards and not A or PSu that's my gut feeling on this.
                        Last edited by tw2005; 10-02-2014, 02:59 PM.

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                          #13
                          Re: Pansasonic P50S30 Solid Red LED - Repost

                          The flow chart may not be 100% since it's for ST30, if it turns out to be A I'll eat my words, meter is the best way to be sure of what's what.

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                            #14
                            Re: Pansasonic P50S30 Solid Red LED - Repost

                            P11 on power board, Brown Pin 4 initial resistance reading is 20V, Pin 1 is around 1V or less

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                              #15
                              Re: Pansasonic P50S30 Solid Red LED - Repost

                              Originally posted by Audioplus View Post
                              P11 on power board, Brown Pin 4 initial resistance reading is 20V, Pin 1 is around 1V or less
                              Got me confused, what's the meter on? resistance of 1 volt and 20Volts?

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                                #16
                                Re: Pansasonic P50S30 Solid Red LED - Repost

                                I gotta get ready for that other 4 letter word, work , there's plenty of help available from everyone.

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                                  #17
                                  Re: Pansasonic P50S30 Solid Red LED - Repost

                                  No short on Pin 1 of P2 and Chassis, There is a short on Pin 1 of SC Board & Chassis, there is no short on Pin 1 of SS Board and Chassis.
                                  Indicates a bad SC Board?

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                                    #18
                                    Re: Pansasonic P50S30 Solid Red LED - Repost

                                    Yes the meter's decimal point is fluctuating back and forth, the short is extremely low reading

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                                      #19
                                      Re: Pansasonic P50S30 Solid Red LED - Repost

                                      TW, Alastair & Tom
                                      As usual, thanks for your help Gentlemen!

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                                        #20
                                        Re: Pansasonic P50S30 Solid Red LED - Repost

                                        A local associate has commented that he thinks there could still be an upper buffer issue?

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