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  • FrenchConnection67
    Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 15
    • england

    #1

    need help troubleshooting lg plasma

    Hi everyone,

    I would appreciate some help for troubleshooting my plasma lg 42gt45.

    Please see what i ve tested so far below:

    Fault symptoms: power supply shuts down instantly after turning on the tv.

    Tests:

    1. Checked my psu output with everything connected none

    2. Disconnected the z sus and tried, fault remains the same

    3. Disconnected the y sus and tried, tv turns on, main board lights turns on, vs and va outputs are good for about 10-15s and then goes dead but tv stays on. Now i am wondering whther it is not normal for the vs and va to go dead after the logic board not getting any feedback from the x and z sus board ??????

    3. Funny enough, when i unplugg the ribbon between logic and y sus, i can reconnect the y sus to the psu with just the z sus disconne ted and the tv turn ons

    I am now a bit confused but my primary doubts are on the y suz board

    What do you think?
  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #2
    Re: need help troubleshooting lg plasma

    Are you sure about that model number?
    On some LG plasmas, the Vs and Va are shut down a few seconds after the sustain boards do not output a "go" signal.
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    • FrenchConnection67
      Member
      • Jul 2014
      • 15
      • england

      #3
      Re: need help troubleshooting lg plasma

      Hi tom, the model nunber is 42pt85 sorry my mistake.

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      • tom66
        EVs Rule
        • Apr 2011
        • 32560
        • UK

        #4
        Re: need help troubleshooting lg plasma

        Using an ohmmeter, test across the Vs on the Y-sustain. Power MUST be unplugged from the Y-sustain board! Hold the reading until it appears to stabilise.
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        • FrenchConnection67
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          • Jul 2014
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          #5
          Re: need help troubleshooting lg plasma

          i ve just measured between the two vs pins on y sustain board and it reads 0.02 ohm.

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          • tom66
            EVs Rule
            • Apr 2011
            • 32560
            • UK

            #6
            Re: need help troubleshooting lg plasma

            That would indicate the Y-sustain has a dead short on it.

            The most common fault is the IPM pack on it. However this is extremely difficult to replace unless you have a very good soldering iron and the skill to use it. (Min about 70W.)

            An alternative is to replace the Y-sustain or get it repaired. Cheapest I see for a new board is £54
            http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_tr...at=0&_from=R40

            I can't see any repair services but the repair is identical to the 42X2/X3 panels which have a lot of Y-sustain failures. (The 42X4A IPMs rarely fail.)
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            • FrenchConnection67
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              • Jul 2014
              • 15
              • england

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              Re: need help troubleshooting lg plasma

              yeah i ve also seen that y sustain board for 54 pounds. a bit expensive like, but i ve also seen a a ipm repair kit for 24 pounds which might be the solution. i have three different soldering irons but not that powerful, i have soldering gun though and this is very powerful however not that precise due to its big tip. i ll find a way anyway.

              but you know i ve also measured between the two vs on the psu and got the same value 0.02 ohms (disconnected from the y sus), is that normal?

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              • tom66
                EVs Rule
                • Apr 2011
                • 32560
                • UK

                #8
                Re: need help troubleshooting lg plasma

                For the PSU you will need to hold the reading for some time and wait for it to settle.
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                • FrenchConnection67
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                  • Jul 2014
                  • 15
                  • england

                  #9
                  Re: need help troubleshooting lg plasma

                  i ve hold my measures for at least 1 minute and it reads 0.2 ohms same as on the y sus board (said 0.02 before but misspelled it).

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                  • tom66
                    EVs Rule
                    • Apr 2011
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                    #10
                    Re: need help troubleshooting lg plasma

                    Is the same present on the power board?
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                    • FrenchConnection67
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                      • Jul 2014
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                      Re: need help troubleshooting lg plasma

                      yes i read 0.2 ohms across the two vs pins on both boards being not connected toguether. why? what kind of reading should we roughly get? are they not connected toguether as they supply the same voltage?

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                      • tom66
                        EVs Rule
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 32560
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                        #12
                        Re: need help troubleshooting lg plasma

                        Ugh, sorry. I misread you, I thought you meant Vs and GND. That is fine, yes all the Vs are connected together. (This is true on virtually every plasma TV.)
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                        • FrenchConnection67
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                          • Jul 2014
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                          • england

                          #13
                          Re: need help troubleshooting lg plasma

                          so i ve measured again but now from gnd and vs and get a normal reading, no continuity (on both boards)

                          any other test i could do to isolate whether it is really the y main and not the x main causing the problem. Because how do you explain that when i disconnect the ribbon cable between the logic board and the y main, the tv turns on with the y main connected but not with the x main?

                          but when the ribbon is connected, none of the board are allowing the tv to turn on?????? confused there
                          Last edited by FrenchConnection67; 07-16-2014, 02:23 PM.

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                          • FrenchConnection67
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                            • Jul 2014
                            • 15
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                            #14
                            Re: need help troubleshooting lg plasma

                            anyone else? any ideas guys

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