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  • nasium
    Member
    • Apr 2014
    • 11
    • USA

    #1

    LG 60Pv450 help!

    Hi all…..new member here and I need help with sound only on my LG 60PV450. First thing I did was check all the voltages on the power supply and they all checked out good. Then I checked out all the fuses and the FS104 2A 125v fuse was blown on the Y-sus. I have good soldering skills but decided to order a new one on Ebay. Before installing it I checked all the fuses and they were all ok.
    After installing the new Y-sus board, I turned on the TV and nothing but sound and the FS104 fuse burned out again. Back to square one.
    Learned quite a bit from Tom66 and others, I have attached some pictures with voltage values.
    Va 55v
    Vs 202v
    Vy 180v on Y-sus
    Vsc 19.5v on Y-sus
    Vzb 8.4v on Z-sus
    Zbias 1.8v on Z-sus ribbon cable
    Sus-up 198v on Z-sus ribbon cable
    Pin 1,2 of Z-sus ribbon cable should be 18V and it's 0
    Pin 1,2 of Y-sus ribbon cable should 15v and it's 0.
    I tried jumping the logic board cable and pulling the ribbon cable without anything displayed.
    Any help would be much appreciated!
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  • audiofreak19
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Apr 2013
    • 556
    • usa

    #2
    Re: LG 60Pv450 help!

    Probably an issue with one of the buffer boards

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    • tom66
      EVs Rule
      • Apr 2011
      • 32560
      • UK

      #3
      Re: LG 60Pv450 help!

      Would agree with buffers being a possibility, to test it you can remove the buffers and see if Vsc returns to approx 150V.
      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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      • nasium
        Member
        • Apr 2014
        • 11
        • USA

        #4
        Re: LG 60Pv450 help!

        So I disconnected the buffer boards and the vsc voltage started at 90v and slowly worked up to 152 volts. Not sure why the vy voltage is -180 negative even though the probes are on the + and - respectively.

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        • tom66
          EVs Rule
          • Apr 2011
          • 32560
          • UK

          #5
          Re: LG 60Pv450 help!

          -Vy is supposed to test negative, so that is OK. You have a bad buffer board. You can try the TV with only one board at a time you may get half a picture on the screen.

          This set should run with a picture if the top is out but bottom is still installed.
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          • nasium
            Member
            • Apr 2014
            • 11
            • USA

            #6
            Re: LG 60Pv450 help!

            Sounds good.......I'll give that a try tonight. Are those normal voltages for the Z-sus board? Or are they also affected by the bad buffer board.

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            • tom66
              EVs Rule
              • Apr 2011
              • 32560
              • UK

              #7
              Re: LG 60Pv450 help!

              Hmm, that Zbias is low too. Try with the buffer out, perhaps the control board is detecting an error and turning that off.
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              For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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              • nasium
                Member
                • Apr 2014
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                #8
                Re: LG 60Pv450 help!

                With top buffer board connected the vsc 167 volts. Decided to check the vzb on the zsus and got 5v. No half picture with this setup :-(

                With the bottom buffer board connected the vsc voltage was a solid 20.4 volts. Checked the vzb on the zsus with this setup and it was a solid 6.7 volts. No half picture with this setup.

                The -Vy never changed with either scenario solid -180v.

                Reminder the fs104 fuse is blown with all this testing on the ysus.

                Many thanks!

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                • nasium
                  Member
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 11
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: LG 60Pv450 help!

                  Working on the zbus for low voltage problem... I detached the buffer board. In the process of screwing down the board I noticed a little spark as I screwed in the bottom middle screw and then then a pop sound and a spark came from the top left heat sink. Going to need to get a Zbus.

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                  • tom66
                    EVs Rule
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 32560
                    • UK

                    #10
                    Re: LG 60Pv450 help!

                    I think you have Y-sus and Z-sus faults...
                    Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                    For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                    • Alastair E
                      Chief Womble
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 1963
                      • U.K.

                      #11
                      Re: LG 60Pv450 help!

                      Originally posted by nasium
                      Working on the zbus for low voltage problem... I detached the buffer board. In the process of screwing down the board I noticed a little spark as I screwed in the bottom middle screw and then then a pop sound and a spark came from the top left heat sink. Going to need to get a Zbus.

                      Were you doing this --With the set powered up...?

                      Should Never disconnect/reconnect/remove/replace/ Anything--Including mounting-screws--With the set powered up!

                      When doing any removal/replacement--Unplug from mains, and Leave for 5 minutes before doing anything at all. This time allows charged up caps to dissipate and prevent any possible issues....

                      As it stands, sounds like you need to replace Both 'Sus boards' and the buffers!
                      TELEFIX

                      How PLASMA SCREENS WORK, X-SUS and Y-SUS what they do--
                      http://www.irf.com/technical-info/appnotes/an-1088.pdf
                      PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME PRIVATELY FOR REPAIR ADVICE. QUESTIONS BELONG ON THE FORUM!

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                      • nasium
                        Member
                        • Apr 2014
                        • 11
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: LG 60Pv450 help!

                        Originally posted by Alastair E
                        Were you doing this --With the set powered up...?

                        Should Never disconnect/reconnect/remove/replace/ Anything--Including mounting-screws--With the set powered up!

                        When doing any removal/replacement--Unplug from mains, and Leave for 5 minutes before doing anything at all. This time allows charged up caps to dissipate and prevent any possible issues....

                        As it stands, sounds like you need to replace Both 'Sus boards' and the buffers!
                        Yeah it was powered down but I should have waited the 5 minutes as you say.

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                        • nasium
                          Member
                          • Apr 2014
                          • 11
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: LG 60Pv450 help!

                          Originally posted by tom66
                          I think you have Y-sus and Z-sus faults...
                          What are your thoughts on the buffer boards with the voltage results I got?

                          Many thanks?

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