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  • mattstolte
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    #21
    Re: help with samsung pn58b550 plasma

    Originally posted by tom66
    That marks the adjustment point, but we're still looking for a place to test it. Since 3-4 jumper did not work, it is unlikely to be a main board fault.
    But what we just tested is the main logic control the tcon correct? And I don't even think it connects to the main after u disconnect the lvds cable so how did we check the main? Or it woulda turned on if the main was bad huh?

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    • mattstolte
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      #22
      Re: help with samsung pn58b550 plasma

      also what place do u want me to check it at? I checked all voltages on them and there correct? So I don't know what to do now. Could the main logic control be bad? By unplugging all the buffers and scan drive y sus,zsus shouldn't I have gotten a picture somewhere?

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      • mattstolte
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        #23
        Re: help with samsung pn58b550 plasma

        Originally posted by mattstolte
        But what we just tested is the main logic control the tcon correct? And I don't even think it connects to the main after u disconnect the lvds cable so how did we check the main? Or it woulda turned on if the main was bad huh?
        So tom what should I do next? I'm lost now

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        • tom66
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          #24
          Re: help with samsung pn58b550 plasma

          If the main board (with HDMI etc on it) was bad you would have got some test patterns on the screen with that 3-4 jumper.

          Yes you could have a bad logic board (or "main logic" if you like) but as you have a flashing light (meaning its processor is running and trying to control the plasma panel), it's unlikely, so for now, I'm suggesting checking elsewhere and that is why I want you to find Vscan or Vsc test point and check it. It will be on there somewhere!

          If Vscan/Vsc is missing it points towards a bad Y-buffer or Y-main board.

          Don't shot-gun replace stuff UNTIL you've found the problem, or you'll be hundreds of dollars in and it still won't work.
          Last edited by tom66; 04-14-2014, 03:15 PM.
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          • mattstolte
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            #25
            Re: help with samsung pn58b550 plasma

            Originally posted by tom66
            If the main board (with HDMI etc on it) was bad you would have got some test patterns on the screen with that 3-4 jumper.

            Yes you could have a bad logic board (or "main logic" if you like) but as you have a flashing light (meaning its processor is running and trying to control the plasma panel), it's unlikely, so for now, I'm suggesting checking elsewhere and that is why I want you to find Vscan or Vsc test point and check it. It will be on there somewhere!

            If Vscan/Vsc is missing it points towards a bad Y-buffer or Y-main board.

            Don't shot-gun replace stuff UNTIL you've found the problem, or you'll be hundreds of dollars in and it still won't work.
            Tom I'm sorry I'm dragging this out but I have no idea where these test points are??? All them pictures I added on page 1 is not it? I don't even know what it looks like if u could show me an example picture maybe? Thanks for all ur help

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            • mattstolte
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              #26
              Re: help with samsung pn58b550 plasma

              Tom im at my shop now can u tell me what to look for on this plasma?

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              • tom66
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                #27
                Re: help with samsung pn58b550 plasma

                not sure, I just recalled this thread and we couldn't find it either, see this image for some quick checks
                https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1390928806
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                • mattstolte
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                  #28
                  Re: help with samsung pn58b550 plasma











                  tom is this anything you wanted to see?
                  Attached Files

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                  • tom66
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                    #29
                    Re: help with samsung pn58b550 plasma

                    I have a feeling Vscan might be indicated by that arrow... but that could also be the DIP flow direction, so.... not sure. Nice of Samsung to make it so very clear as mud.
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                    • mattstolte
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                      #30
                      Re: help with samsung pn58b550 plasma

                      so in that picture am I putting my probes on each side of that coil?

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                      • mattstolte
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                        #31
                        Re: help with samsung pn58b550 plasma

                        and on the connector am I putting my negative probe on lead 3 and positive on lead 11?

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                        • tom66
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                          #32
                          Re: help with samsung pn58b550 plasma

                          the red capacitor, not the coil.
                          red lead on red, black lead on black.
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                          • mattstolte
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                            #33
                            Re: help with samsung pn58b550 plasma

                            Originally posted by tom66
                            the red capacitor, not the coil.
                            red lead on red, black lead on black.
                            what about in the picture of the connector?

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                            • tom66
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                              #34
                              Re: help with samsung pn58b550 plasma

                              As you said. Do that.
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                              • mattstolte
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                                #35
                                Re: help with samsung pn58b550 plasma

                                Originally posted by tom66
                                As you said. Do that.
                                on the cap im getting -110 on my meter??? on the connector im getting nothing.. and while I was testing it I smelled something really hot on that board burning

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                                • mattstolte
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                                  #36
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                                  also how can I discharge that board with out getting shocked? or am I ok? im gonna take it off and look at the bottom

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                                  • mattstolte
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                                    #37
                                    Re: help with samsung pn58b550 plasma

                                    tom you think I should get new y main?

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                                    • tom66
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                                      #38
                                      Re: help with samsung pn58b550 plasma

                                      I haven't made my mind up yet because I don't have all the requested information...
                                      Negative reading for the caps is fine, depends on which way you put the probes & which way I've indicated it... 110V does indicate that part of Y-main is fully functional. If you listen carefully you might be able to hear a slight buzz from the board. This is OK.
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                                      • mattstolte
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                                        #39
                                        Re: help with samsung pn58b550 plasma

                                        Originally posted by tom66
                                        I haven't made my mind up yet because I don't have all the requested information...
                                        Negative reading for the caps is fine, depends on which way you put the probes & which way I've indicated it... 110V does indicate that part of Y-main is fully functional. If you listen carefully you might be able to hear a slight buzz from the board. This is OK.
                                        I hear slight buzz from y and z sus's. what other info do you need? remember I am new to this so all this is new to me, thanks

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                                        • tom66
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                                          #40
                                          Re: help with samsung pn58b550 plasma

                                          The Vsch I highlighted across those pins for one...
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