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  • "AD"
    Member
    • Mar 2014
    • 37
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    #1

    Samsung LN46A500T1F Color Distortion problem

    Hi guys,

    First of, I hope Im following the rules properly posting new threat, if not, I apologize in advance, and accept suggestions

    I have a 46" Samsung LCD TV, model LN46A500T1FXZA, and about a week ago, suddenly the colors are totally wrong, like a negative film (but in color). I've seen some videos about the service menu config and I got into it, but after changing a few of the options there I don't see it improving at all. Judging from comments on other threats, I think it might be the T-Con board, can anybody give me an advise about it? I hope I posted the pictures properly, but if I didn't, here is a youtube video with a slide show of them.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCcX...ature=youtu.be


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  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #2
    Re: Samsung LN46A500T1F Color Distortion problem

    Looks like a gamma voltages problem. Can you post a picture of the tcon board?
    Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
    For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Samsung LN46A500T1F Color Distortion problem

      Bad Gamma voltages on the T-CON board. Post good clear pictures of the T-CON board.
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

      TV Factory reset codes listing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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      • "AD"
        Member
        • Mar 2014
        • 37
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Samsung LN46A500T1F Color Distortion problem

        I can get a better picture when I get home, but let me know if these two pictures help...

        Thanks,


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        • tom66
          EVs Rule
          • Apr 2011
          • 32560
          • UK

          #5
          Re: Samsung LN46A500T1F Color Distortion problem

          Yes, see the area marked "GAMMA" between the two white ribbon cables?
          With your multimeter on the 20V DC range, check the voltage on each numbered pad and report back.

          To do this:
          - Multimeter set to 20V DC range
          - Red probe on the pad in question
          - Black probe on metal frame such as wall mount brackets (inside TV.)
          - TV plugged in and showing image with fault
          Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
          For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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          • "AD"
            Member
            • Mar 2014
            • 37
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Samsung LN46A500T1F Color Distortion problem

            As a side note (I don't know if it's important or not), I noticed a few months back, that images would burn too easy on the display. For example, (I have comcast as a cable provider), If I put the On-demand Menu, and look for a TV show, lets say 5 min or so scrolling to my choices, that was enough time for the TV to get the menu boxes burned into the display.

            Thanks,


            AD

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            • tom66
              EVs Rule
              • Apr 2011
              • 32560
              • UK

              #7
              Re: Samsung LN46A500T1F Color Distortion problem

              That effect can sometimes be found with gamma problem, but it is also sometimes due to the chi-mei LCD panel (which is a cheap panel for Samsung to use, vs their own panels they used in the 6-series Samsungs.)
              Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
              For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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              • "AD"
                Member
                • Mar 2014
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                • USA

                #8
                Re: Samsung LN46A500T1F Color Distortion problem

                Perfect!! Thank you so much. I will do that as soon as I get home and get to you guys with the results.


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                • "AD"
                  Member
                  • Mar 2014
                  • 37
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                  #9
                  Re: Samsung LN46A500T1F Color Distortion problem

                  OK Guys, Here are my results. I want to make sure I got the voltages in the correct numbers, I assumed the numbers on top indicate the order numbers on the pins. See picture bellow and tell me if I got it right.

                  Now, there isn't a number 18 on the board, but there is a pin for it, so I got that one too just in case.

                  Volt 1 14.6
                  Volt 2 13.02
                  Volt 3 12.25
                  Volt 4 11.58
                  Volt 5 11.16
                  Volt 6 11.15
                  Volt 7 12.99
                  Volt 8 11.39
                  Volt 9 9.13
                  Volt 10 6.49
                  Volt 11 6.28
                  Volt 12 5.52
                  Volt 13 4.94
                  Volt 14 4.6
                  Volt 15 4.2
                  Volt 16 3.4
                  Volt 17 3.17
                  Volt 18?? 9.16


                  I see in another thread Tom's spreadsheet, and seems like it failed the test?

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                  Last edited by "AD"; 03-28-2014, 05:04 PM.

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                  • tom66
                    EVs Rule
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 32560
                    • UK

                    #10
                    Re: Samsung LN46A500T1F Color Distortion problem

                    That looks right, the IC is bad. Do not fret! Just need to replace gamma IC on T-con (a fairly intermediate to advanced soldering project) or entire T-con board.
                    Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                    For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                    • "AD"
                      Member
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 37
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Samsung LN46A500T1F Color Distortion problem

                      I'm pretty good at getting myself in trouble Which one is the IC on the T-Con? And also, If I wanted to go the whole T-con way, I only see one sticker with a to of numbers, is that the part number?

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                      Last edited by "AD"; 03-28-2014, 05:20 PM.

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Samsung LN46A500T1F Color Distortion problem

                        The numbers as printed on the barcode sticker is the PCBA numbers that you need to match, go to shopjimmy.com. You can contact them to verify.
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • "AD"
                          Member
                          • Mar 2014
                          • 37
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: Samsung LN46A500T1F Color Distortion problem

                          Ok I will check them out. One more question.. regarding the IC, is it the one in the circle?

                          AD,
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                          • wills123
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2014
                            • 72
                            • england

                            #14
                            Re: Samsung LN46A500T1F Color Distortion problem

                            no its the chip with all the little legs on the right of the one you circled, will have as15- then a letter printed on it

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                            • "AD"
                              Member
                              • Mar 2014
                              • 37
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: Samsung LN46A500T1F Color Distortion problem

                              Ah ok, mine says AS19-H1G0813B7923N45. WOW!! that looks much more complicated to replace than the one I circled lol. I might not be qualified for it.

                              shopjimmy.com does not have my T-Con, the only offer the repair service for $69. I might take that option. BTW... is there any place you guys know where I can get the IC? I don't even see results for it on google

                              AD,

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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: Samsung LN46A500T1F Color Distortion problem

                                http://www.ebay.com/itm/1pcs-AS19-H1...item27c31816ff
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                • "AD"
                                  Member
                                  • Mar 2014
                                  • 37
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: Samsung LN46A500T1F Color Distortion problem

                                  Budm,

                                  Thank you very much for taking the time to find it for me. I'm assuming the important part of the model is up to AS19-H1G, I was trying to find one that matched the whole string of numbers. I'm guessing it doesn't matter if they don't?

                                  Anyways... I ordered it, but it's going to take some time to get it, they say from 15 to 30 days so I'll be patient.

                                  Again, thank you very much.

                                  AD

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                                  • budm
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Feb 2010
                                    • 40746
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: Samsung LN46A500T1F Color Distortion problem

                                    The harder part will be removing the old parts without damaging the traces.
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                    • "AD"
                                      Member
                                      • Mar 2014
                                      • 37
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: Samsung LN46A500T1F Color Distortion problem

                                      I was kind of worried about that too. Well... While the IC gets here, I got plenty of time to practice, so Im going to find ICs on some unused boards I have laying around.

                                      Can you explain briefly how is it that the number printed on the IC doesn't have to match exactly? I'm just curios about that.

                                      Thanks in advance,

                                      AD

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                                      • tom66
                                        EVs Rule
                                        • Apr 2011
                                        • 32560
                                        • UK

                                        #20
                                        Re: Samsung LN46A500T1F Color Distortion problem

                                        The rest of the part# is a date code and/or factory lot code.
                                        Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                                        For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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