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  • vonbismarck
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    • Mar 2014
    • 14
    • United States of America

    #1

    LG 47lv5500 no picture, possibly no sound

    I currently have a 47lv5500 that doesn't get display a picture. The TV had a broken screen when I first got it. It took me a while to find a replacement but was finally able to do so. The person I bought the replacement from said that it was working (can't remember if they said if it was new or not, it was a while ago). Because of family issues, I wasn't able to transfer anything over for a few months. When I finally did, the TV would turn on but no picture would/will show. The screen will light up when turned on, go black for a second or two and then go back to just displaying a lightened screen. I asked someone before if they thought it was the T-Con board but they thought it might be the panel. I a hoping it isn't the panel as it isn't really worth it to replace (the panel I bought is a sunk cost now).

    Any ideas on what/where I should look/check? I can provide pictures if need wanted.

    Thank you

    Michael
  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #2
    Re: LG 47lv5500 no picture, possibly no sound

    Can you tell if the backlight lights up or not?
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    • vonbismarck
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      • Mar 2014
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      • United States of America

      #3
      Re: LG 47lv5500 no picture, possibly no sound

      Originally posted by tom66
      Can you tell if the backlight lights up or not?
      Hello. I want to say that yes, the backlight lights up. When I turn the TV on with the back off I see light when viewing it from the back.

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #4
        Re: LG 47lv5500 no picture, possibly no sound

        Then we need to check and see if we do have DC voltage at both ends of the SMD fuse on the T-CON board next.
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        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

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        • vonbismarck
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          • Mar 2014
          • 14
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          #5
          Re: LG 47lv5500 no picture, possibly no sound

          Originally posted by budm
          Then we need to check and see if we do have DC voltage at both ends of the SMD fuse on the T-CON board next.
          Hello. Sorry, I was gone for most of the day. How do I go about checking the voltage? Should I provide a picture of the T-Con board?

          Thank you

          Michael

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          • vonbismarck
            Member
            • Mar 2014
            • 14
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            #6
            Re: LG 47lv5500 no picture, possibly no sound

            Originally posted by budm
            Then we need to check and see if we do have DC voltage at both ends of the SMD fuse on the T-CON board next.
            Here is a picture of the T-Con board. Where/how do I check for voltage on both ends of the SMD fuse?

            Thank you
            Attached Files

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            • Caleb
              Smokin IC's
              • Feb 2013
              • 645
              • USA

              #7
              Re: LG 47lv5500 no picture, possibly no sound

              Fuse is located between the white ribbons. Its white with brass ends says 3a on it. You should have continuity between the ends as well as about 12v on both ends when TV is on.
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              • vonbismarck
                Member
                • Mar 2014
                • 14
                • United States of America

                #8
                Re: LG 47lv5500 no picture, possibly no sound

                Okay, these are the results I got (hopefully I tested it right):

                For continuity, the fuse is shorted (the meter beeped)

                As for voltage, I was getting around .85 - .88 for each side. Obviously, nowhere near the 12V I should see.

                Does this mean the T-Con board is bad or a different board?

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: LG 47lv5500 no picture, possibly no sound

                  That means the main board is not sending the switched B+ to the T-CON board, this switched B+ is fed through switched MOSFET on the main board close to the power pin of the LVDS connector (this connects the main board an the T-CON board through ribbon cables) of the main board.
                  Last edited by budm; 03-27-2014, 03:15 PM.
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • vonbismarck
                    Member
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 14
                    • United States of America

                    #10
                    Re: LG 47lv5500 no picture, possibly no sound

                    Originally posted by budm
                    That means the main board is not sending the switched B+ to the T-CON board, this switched B+ is fed through switched MOSFET on the main board close to the power pin of the LVDS connector (this connects the main board an the T-CON board through ribbon cables) of the main board.
                    Is this something that I would be able to replace? Also, does it sound like that is the only problem (i.e. if I replace the part/whole board, should the TV then work)?

                    Thank you

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                    • Caleb
                      Smokin IC's
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 645
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: LG 47lv5500 no picture, possibly no sound

                      Close up pictures of the main board by the ribbon connections would be helpful in directing you where to test next.
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                      • vonbismarck
                        Member
                        • Mar 2014
                        • 14
                        • United States of America

                        #12
                        Re: LG 47lv5500 no picture, possibly no sound

                        Originally posted by Caleb
                        Close up pictures of the main board by the ribbon connections would be helpful in directing you where to test next.
                        Hopefully this is will help.
                        Attached Files

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                        • vonbismarck
                          Member
                          • Mar 2014
                          • 14
                          • United States of America

                          #13
                          Re: LG 47lv5500 no picture, possibly no sound

                          Originally posted by Caleb
                          Close up pictures of the main board by the ribbon connections would be helpful in directing you where to test next.
                          Hello. Was the picture I provided the one that you had asked for? Also, if the MOSFET can be replaced, how do I find the piece?

                          Thank you.

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                          • Caleb
                            Smokin IC's
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 645
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: LG 47lv5500 no picture, possibly no sound

                            Yes that picture is fine, I would guess the ones labeled ic508 and ic504 are the ones your looking for, google the chip number and find a datasheet to get the pinout. You can report back the voltages present.
                            Last edited by Caleb; 03-28-2014, 05:11 PM.
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                            • budm
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 40746
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: LG 47lv5500 no picture, possibly no sound

                              You can verify if those two devices are the switched to supply the voltage to the fuse on the T-CON board or not, juts check the resistance between the fuse on the T-CON and one of the pin on the device, it should show <1 ohms resistance.
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                              • vonbismarck
                                Member
                                • Mar 2014
                                • 14
                                • United States of America

                                #16
                                Re: LG 47lv5500 no picture, possibly no sound

                                Okay, I am able to get get voltages from ic504 and 508 but I can't seem to get any ohms. I don't know if I am doing something wrong or if that just means that they are bad. Also, though I am getting voltages, I still haven't found a datasheet anywhere to let me know what the voltages should be though I may have found a place selling them. Should I just order them?

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                                • tom66
                                  EVs Rule
                                  • Apr 2011
                                  • 32560
                                  • UK

                                  #17
                                  Re: LG 47lv5500 no picture, possibly no sound

                                  Can you list full part# of these IC504/508?
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                                  • vonbismarck
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                                    • Mar 2014
                                    • 14
                                    • United States of America

                                    #18
                                    Re: LG 47lv5500 no picture, possibly no sound

                                    Originally posted by tom66
                                    Can you list full part# of these IC504/508?
                                    Hello. I have finally been able to get at least one of the part numbers. I can't seem to find a magnifying glass and my eyes are too bad to read the small print. I was able to use a macro lens but I still can't make out the number for ic508. You can see them in the picture. For ic504 I see: 2132MP -2.5G1 027J97

                                    All I can see for ic 508 looks like: A27173 1043GGE (though I am not sure if any of that is correct).

                                    Here is my question, is it pointless to replace these since I can't get the full part number for ic508?

                                    Thank you
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                                    • Caleb
                                      Smokin IC's
                                      • Feb 2013
                                      • 645
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: LG 47lv5500 no picture, possibly no sound

                                      When you say you have no ohms, does that mean you have no resistance between the fuse on the tcon and those components? Do you have resistance from the fuse on the tcon to the connection on the other end of that same ribbon cable? it may be that those components are not the ones that are supposed to provide voltage to the tcon. As Budm said you can use the ohms mode to find what is connected to the tcon fuse on the main board by finding the low resistance connection.

                                      the ic 504 appears to be an voltage regulator, i didnt get any hits on the number provided for ic508. data sheet for 504 attached
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                                      • vonbismarck
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                                        • Mar 2014
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                                        #20
                                        Re: LG 47lv5500 no picture, possibly no sound

                                        Originally posted by Caleb
                                        When you say you have no ohms, does that mean you have no resistance between the fuse on the tcon and those components? Do you have resistance from the fuse on the tcon to the connection on the other end of that same ribbon cable? it may be that those components are not the ones that are supposed to provide voltage to the tcon. As Budm said you can use the ohms mode to find what is connected to the tcon fuse on the main board by finding the low resistance connection.

                                        the ic 504 appears to be an voltage regulator, i didnt get any hits on the number provided for ic508. data sheet for 504 attached
                                        When I had tested for ohms, it was just between the fuse and those components. I just checked now for the other end of the ribbons cables. The cable at P1502 (not sure if that is how you describe it, the one under "reverse") I get no resistance but at the other cable there are some pins where I can get it give me around .4 ohms.

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