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  • Midnightalaskan
    Member
    • Dec 2013
    • 26
    • 'Murica

    #21
    Re: Viewsonic VT3745 powering up issues

    Yep! 24v on both side of F1 and 2

    This is why I'm so dang confused! Everything I have poked at says it should be on.
    Last edited by Midnightalaskan; 12-04-2013, 11:54 PM. Reason: Tidbits.

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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #22
      Re: Viewsonic VT3745 powering up issues

      I just updated my previous, please read it again.
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

      TV Factory reset codes listing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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      • Midnightalaskan
        Member
        • Dec 2013
        • 26
        • 'Murica

        #23
        Re: Viewsonic VT3745 powering up issues

        Just caught that. Nothing on that grey wire I_PWM

        Yah it's like I have to keep trying until it decides we are worthy enough to watch a movie.

        It works... Kind of... But not to spec.

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        • budm
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 40746
          • USA

          #24
          Re: Viewsonic VT3745 powering up issues

          Try removing that I_PWM line or cut the wire long enough so you can splice it back together later on and see if the backlights will come on.
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          • Midnightalaskan
            Member
            • Dec 2013
            • 26
            • 'Murica

            #25
            Re: Viewsonic VT3745 powering up issues

            Cut the wire and nothing changed. No backlight.
            Standby light still does it's off on off thing too. All voltage at the PSB (5,12 and 24v) look fine when trying to power on.

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            • Midnightalaskan
              Member
              • Dec 2013
              • 26
              • 'Murica

              #26
              Re: Viewsonic VT3745 powering up issues

              Just got home and did a little probing (to the tv not the wife ) after cutting the I_pwm it seems I have lost my ground through the metal frame of the LCD display. When I ground to the frame and volt tick everything on the PSB, inverter board and main board I get around 1.5v on my meter on everything. If I ground it to the ground stud on the PSB, everything shows correct voltage. Just as a recap with the unit "on" I get the following out of the PSB

              Going to the main board:
              Acd 3.4v. P_on 2.8v
              3-5v posts 4.99v. 3-GDN post grounded
              3-12v post 11.99v. BL grounded
              GND grounded. BRI grounded
              PWM 0.005v

              Now the plug going to the inverter board

              BL grounded. BRI grounded
              4-GND grounded. N.C. Nothing
              4- 24v. 24.60v.

              Those readings are from the PSB and when I ground it on the PSB

              Like I stated... Most all the plugs register 1.5v when trying to ground through the LCD metal frame.

              Now here's something odd... I slipped while probing the main board and accidentally put my probe between the BL and 12+ post and the backlight turned on.... I removed it as quickly as I had set it there... But it definitely turned on the ccfl. I did it once more for a nano second to confirm I wasn't seeing things... Since the LCD screen is on the floor face down, it's hard to tell if the unit is actually on(the ccfl is on but I don't know if the tv is functioning). I don't want to hold the probe there too long just in case it's bad that I "jumped" the connection. All this is while the tv has stalled on the blue light (on) not while on standby.

              Now I'm confused...
              Last edited by Midnightalaskan; 12-05-2013, 10:58 PM. Reason: Added a tidbit

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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
                • USA

                #27
                Re: Viewsonic VT3745 powering up issues

                OK, on post 15 you did have DC voltage at BL pin, and now you do not.
                But the main key right now is that you are able to force on the backlights buy applying 12V to BL line. When we test the inverter board we use 1K resistor between BL (or BL_ON) and the 5VSTBY pin to force on the backlights.
                So it is telling me that your main board is not sending the BL signal to turn on the backlights. So I would use the 1K as I mention, once you can see the backlights, if the main board other functions are OK, you should then be able to see the images on the screen, if not, then your main board is more likely to be the problem.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • Midnightalaskan
                  Member
                  • Dec 2013
                  • 26
                  • 'Murica

                  #28
                  Re: Viewsonic VT3745 powering up issues

                  Should I repair the PWM grey wire I cut first?

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #29
                    Re: Viewsonic VT3745 powering up issues

                    Yes, reconnect that wire. I have a feeling that the backlights will not come now even when you apply the voltage to the BL pin.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • Midnightalaskan
                      Member
                      • Dec 2013
                      • 26
                      • 'Murica

                      #30
                      Re: Viewsonic VT3745 powering up issues

                      Wire reconnected, used a 1k resistor between 5v and BL on the main board... After successfully shocking myself, I was not able to get the backlight to come on unless I put the probe between the 12v and BL as explained above.

                      I just did the 12v to BL for a second and I do not see the tv working when the ccfl is on. In fact it is only on when the the standby light is blue but shuts off when it goes back to orange. Something keeps kicking it back to standby (orange light).

                      Ok after 100 tries of the power button I got it to kick on and run... Now volt ticking I show at the PSB going to the main board:
                      ACD 3.37v. P_on. 2.798v
                      3-5v posts 4.96v 3-GDN posts. Grounded
                      3-12 posts 12.08v. BL. 4.86v
                      GND grounded. BRI 2.38v
                      PWM 0.05v
                      I get the same V at the main board plug as well

                      From the PSB to the inverter board
                      BL 4.86v. BRI 2.888
                      PWM. 0.43v. 4-GND posts grounded
                      4-24v posts 24.28v
                      I get the same V on the inverter board plug as well.

                      I can now get a ground through the LCD panel frame as well (where it wasn't reading last time)
                      The ground is also working through corresponding grounds on the PSB inverter and main board.

                      If I shut it off, it's back to square one with the not turning on.
                      Last edited by Midnightalaskan; 12-06-2013, 12:47 AM. Reason: Got the tv to kick on so I can volt tick it.

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                      • Midnightalaskan
                        Member
                        • Dec 2013
                        • 26
                        • 'Murica

                        #31
                        Re: Viewsonic VT3745 powering up issues

                        After some extensive searching.... I only found one main board online for $100... Used and off ebay. I'm hoping it's not the MB but if it is, can the MB be repaired to a point?

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                        • Midnightalaskan
                          Member
                          • Dec 2013
                          • 26
                          • 'Murica

                          #32
                          Re: Viewsonic VT3745 powering up issues

                          Any suggestions about what to try next?

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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #33
                            Re: Viewsonic VT3745 powering up issues

                            Main board repair is not easy, sometime it can be simple bad voltage regulator. $100 for main board is really expensive for 37" screen, $50 for the most I would spend on main board for 37" TV. At this point we know that the backlights and the power supply are OK, but the main board is not functioning properly.
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • Midnightalaskan
                              Member
                              • Dec 2013
                              • 26
                              • 'Murica

                              #34
                              Re: Viewsonic VT3745 powering up issues

                              Damn! So just volt tick stuff untill I find a problem or find a new mb? Well at least it kinda works... I better get it back together before the wife kills me!

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                              • Midnightalaskan
                                Member
                                • Dec 2013
                                • 26
                                • 'Murica

                                #35
                                Re: Viewsonic VT3745 powering up issues

                                Are there places that I could send the MB off to to get fixed? After a bunch of searching, I cant find a MB anywhere!

                                Also Thank you very much for all the help Budm you rock!

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                                • doggs
                                  New Member
                                  • Aug 2014
                                  • 2
                                  • south africa

                                  #36
                                  Re: Viewsonic VT3745 powering up issues

                                  Hi guys, thank you for all the info.

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