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  • freakaftr8
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    • Oct 2012
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    #21
    Re: pioneer pro-506 XMain issue

    Originally posted by mmartell
    Excuse my thick skull but what does the .238v refer to or rather how was it injected to fix the panel ?
    Sorry typo. I use my samsung galaxy s4 and I keep hitting the period instead of the space bar.
    its 238vdc is the vsus. I had to ramp it up from 221vdc. But factory vsus appears to me from 208 to 215vdc
    Last edited by freakaftr8; 11-26-2013, 12:37 AM.
    Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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    • mmartell
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      • Oct 2013
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      #22
      Re: pioneer pro-506 XMain issue

      Originally posted by freakaftr8
      Sorry typo. I use my samsung galaxy s4 and I keep hitting the period instead of the space bar.
      its 238vdc is the vsus
      I know exactly what you.mean.

      So you did have to increase the voltage to the panel to get it to operate properly. Do you expect any long term effects of that, notwithstanding the panel already has 67000 hours on it.

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      • tom66
        EVs Rule
        • Apr 2011
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        • UK

        #23
        Re: pioneer pro-506 XMain issue

        67,000 hrs is impressive, not surprising the panel wore out! Any burn in? The pixel half life is only about 50,000 hrs!
        But, I would still try leaving Vsus around 220V, and tweak Vset voltage (or similar.) Any effect?
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        • freakaftr8
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          #24
          Re: pioneer pro-506 XMain issue

          I was misreading something. This tv actually has 70,000 hours on it. Lol thought my BMW M5 with 204,000 miles on her was crazy.

          Yes there is pixel burn and if I turn the vsus down you can really see it in the lower right hand corner someone was watching good day Sacramento and you can see how it doesn't want to charge those pixels because they are darker than the rest when the vsus is set down to its intended voltage then you can see.

          Also has the standard pioneer issue where letterbox been using its darker in the center that it is on the whole screen every Pioneer I have seen her come in contact with seems to have that same issue.

          oddly enough the TV had a hard time charging the pixels that are used in the letterbox not was essentially why I had to turn up the voltage because in the center the screen it's used harder than any other areas the TV screen and that was the hardest part to charge.



          http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6b716451.jpg
          Last edited by freakaftr8; 11-26-2013, 08:53 AM.
          Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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          • freakaftr8
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            #25
            Re: pioneer pro-506 XMain issue

            This is at 205vdc vsus. Letterbox area non existent.


            http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/a...psbd43cfd7.jpg


            I tried tweaking the vset and leaving vsus low with no result. Tried xsus adjustments as well. No result. The panel simply put needs to be driven harder in this stage of its life.
            This is a first for me. Longest running panel I have encountered before this was 40,000 hours.
            I must hand it to pioneer thou. The picture is still nice and bright. Better in comparison to my 2012 panny TC-50UT50!
            Last edited by freakaftr8; 11-26-2013, 09:48 AM.
            Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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            • tom66
              EVs Rule
              • Apr 2011
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              • UK

              #26
              Re: pioneer pro-506 XMain issue

              Well, that's impressive. How old is it? It must be at least 8 years old, because if it were watched continuously, that would just about put it around 24 hours/day.
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              • freakaftr8
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                #27
                Re: pioneer pro-506 XMain issue

                Late 2005 I believe. Could be wrong ill look tonight
                Last edited by freakaftr8; 11-26-2013, 10:22 AM.
                Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                • freakaftr8
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                  #28
                  Re: pioneer pro-506 XMain issue

                  Called my wife to look. Aug 2004
                  Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                  • freakaftr8
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                    #29
                    Re: pioneer pro-506 XMain issue

                    My math shows that it has not been turned off since Nov. 2005. Im sure with the build date and betwwen that and Nov of 05 thats the power cylce. Its peen power cycled roughly 2000 times.
                    Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                    • freakaftr8
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                      #30
                      Re: pioneer pro-506 XMain issue

                      Oh and here is what the black background looks like. You can see the heavy usage in letterbox.


                      http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps590c7e82.jpg
                      Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                      • tom66
                        EVs Rule
                        • Apr 2011
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                        #31
                        Re: pioneer pro-506 XMain issue

                        Try dropping one of the negative rails...
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                        • freakaftr8
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                          #32
                          Re: pioneer pro-506 XMain issue

                          You mean like vscan?
                          Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                          • tom66
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                            #33
                            Re: pioneer pro-506 XMain issue

                            Yes. Also check X-main Ve.
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                            • freakaftr8
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                              #34
                              Re: pioneer pro-506 XMain issue

                              Tried dropping the negative rail. No such luck.
                              Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                              • freakaftr8
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                                #35
                                Re: pioneer pro-506 XMain issue

                                Its actually brighter on camera. Its acceptable to the eye
                                Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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